Dalglish resigned/sacked?

Lifelong Liverpool fan here.

I'm not sure what I want to, or indeed should expect from the club. I like the idea of someone like Capello/AVB/Mouriniho/Pep/etc etc... But I feel we are holding on to this 'top3, title contenders,etc' mantra that the club can't deliver against anymore. That is going to put whoever comes in under huge pressure.

What do I therefore want? Someone who will get a really decent run at it. 5-6 seasons to build a team, start making inroads with youth, etc.

I do however strongly believe we are above some of the managers mentioned. Martinez would be a huge mistake. He isn't ready for a bigger club with bigger players.... Yet.
 
I think Liverpool need to aim high, otherwise it's a sign they're accepting of a place in the second tier of English football, which isn't where they should be (IMO)
 
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I do however strongly believe we are above some of the managers mentioned. Martinez would be a huge mistake. He isn't ready for a bigger club with bigger players.... Yet.

Neither is RDm yet he has just won the champions league after being sacked by West Brom. West Brom recovered after they sacked him. Birmingham then turned him down.

Clearly managing a smaller club with no budget and more average players has little bearing on whether you can succeed at a club that will speed 100m per year :D
 
Given the money he spent relative to league position (including Everton) I suppose this was always on the cards.

With the noises the management have made about wanting a young enthusiastic manager to work on a "project" somebody like AVB must surely be in the frame; they were rumoured to be interested in him before and he won't cost anything in release fees being a free agent. Guardiola might be another option if he wasn't so keen on taking a year break from football. I know Liverpool might not be the draw they once were, but I could see him fancying a piece of that, a sleeping giant with a big history, bit of financial backing, way of trying his arm in a different league without slumming it too much etc. A step down from Barca, but that goes without saying.

I'm not sure about Martinez, it feels like maybe the Liverpool job has come a little bit too early for him (given the weight of expectation at the club) but ultimately we'll never know how he handles so-called 'big name players' and 'big club pressure' until he gets the opportunity. I'd have felt the Villa job might be more appropriate, despite Whelan's protestations.
 
Ajax boss Frank de Boer has ruled himself out of the running to take over as Liverpool manager, insisting he wants to stay in Amsterdam.

De Boer has been linked with the vacant Anfield job following Kenny Dalglish's sacking last week after a disappointing season culminated in the Reds' worst league finish for 18 years.

But the 42-year-old Dutchman, who has guided Ajax to back-to-back Eredivisie titles, says he still has unfinished business in Amsterdam after taking over as coach in 2010.

"I am honoured by the request, but I am only just getting started with Ajax," De Boer told De Telegraaf.

"In Amsterdam we are on a new path and, along with the club and Wim Jonk and Dennis Bergkamp, my colleagues in the technical heart, I want to bring good things.

"That's why I will stay loyal to Ajax in the coming years."

De Boer's snub comes after Swansea manager Brendan Rodgers also turned down an approach from Liverpool last week.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/7768717/De-Boer-turns-down-Liverpool

So, who has actually talked to Liverpool so far? Just Martinez?
 
So much for the great idea of interviewing for the position as if it was a real world management job. It's not pure coincidence that things are done a certain way on football.

For one thing, if you're aiming high enough then the club most likely has to sell itself to the manager as much as the manager needs to make the right impression. Good luck making him feel he's the one you really want when he's one of ten candidates.

And as Liverpool are finding out, it's not so easy to find managers that are willing to upset their current fans way before another job is even offered. Ideally, a manager would want the first time supporters are aware you're willing to walk away from a club to be when it actually happens. Interview ten managers already in jobs and that's at least nine you send back to their clubs with their fans knowing they were open to the idea of walking away.
 
And as Liverpool are finding out, it's not so easy to find managers that are willing to upset their current fans way before another job is even offered. Ideally, a manager would want the first time supporters are aware you're willing to walk away from a club to be when it actually happens. Interview ten managers already in jobs and that's at least nine you send back to their clubs with their fans knowing they were open to the idea of walking away.

This is certainly a problem but mainly because we're doing things properly and approaching clubs, seeking permission to talk to their manager. Had we gone straight to the managers (or their agents), this wouldn't be nearly as big a problem.
 
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