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He does it on purpose to wined up people
Dalglish resigned/sacked?
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What type of players do you think LFC need to attract???
I think they need some hard working, honest and ego-less players. Just the type of people Rodgers might just be able to bring in, on a decent budget might I add.
Big names and "the next big thing" hasn't really worked in the kenny era so I'm not sure why another big name manager with some big name footballers will help the situation.
Whilst i agree on the big ego side Kenny in his last stint didnt sign big players he signed over rated and over priced players if indeed it was him.
I know nothing of Rodgers other than what he has achvied in the league this year, But ill give any manager we get a chance but allot of our fans need to realise we are NOT in a position to attract players like Hazard/Mata etc(Im using there names yes i know there in clubs and recently signed but on the basis if there werent) and top tier players atm due to our position in recent leagues and the current manager situation.
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One or two went thinking they were all that, Enrique was the main one and I felt Carroll has some sort of ego messing about. You are right that most are overrate and overpriced.
Also agree the big club mentality needs a reality check, which is party getting the manager sorted properly, not just a big name though, a stable name with a coaching staff and realistic plan for the club to progress. A lot of work still has to be done though from the club to sort out someone to fix this mess...
At 20 he quit the game, realising he was not good enough to play at the top level. He did, though, think he could coach there.
“I wanted to make a difference. I went to Spain. I was a big lover of Spanish football and spoke the language. I spent a lot of time at Barcelona, talking and working with coaches, finding out about the model and the philosophy of the club. I’d been to Sevilla, Valencia and Betis.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...gers-aims-to-convert-long-ball-believers.html
I've read a few articles on him tonight and I'd prefer him over R.Martinez.
As a Swansea fan I would say Rodgers has a lot more to him and seems to respected a lot more by the players and other managers. I dont understand all the praise for Martinez.
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He did.
...and then he took half the back room staff and the top striker when he left. Effectively leaving the club up the creek.
Don't get me wrong. He worked wonders while he was here, but mainly in attack. Our defence was a comedy of errors and it took 2 successive managers to put that right.
Fact is, I am biased, so I'd rather Martinez got the job so we can strengthen this season and make a push to finish mid-table again. He must be getting bored scraping through relegation every season
I'd give the new manager until the January transfer window before they got the boot either way, such is the impatience in the modern game.
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Internet rumourmills can jog on, I miss the days when you'd switch Radio 5 on and they'd be like:
"Andy Cole has signed for Manchester United"
and you'd be like
"WTF?!?"
This I remember that day shook the footie game in England to its core
I really am, as a Liverpool fan from liverpool, bemused by all the talk of certain managers not being good enough. People who support other teams say that Liverpool fans "live in the past" and maybe, in choosing the new manager, we should look at our past and our past managers.
Bill Shankly- Carlisle(15th, 9th, 3rd), Grimsby(2nd, 5th), Workington(18th, 8th) and Huddersfield(12th, 9th, 14th) all 3rd division north teams, He never really had any success in his 10 years of managing these teams (finishing 2nd with Grimsby did not get promotion back then). He then went on to manage Liverpool, who were in the second division at the time. It took him a few years with not much money but what money he had he spent extremely well and built a team that would go on to promotion in 1962 (so that took him 3 years!) and won the league title in 1964.
I won't go on to say how well shanks did as most people in this thread will know.
Bob Paisley- Never managed a team before he managed Liverpool! He took over after the shock retirement of Shankly and had to be pushed into the job un-willingly. You would think that a man of few words like Paisley would buckle under the pressure of managing Liverpool but this is what he won in 9 years in charge
1st division winners = 6
European Cup = 3
Uefa Cup = 1
League Cup = 3
European super Cup = 1
Joe Fagan had 2 years in charge having only managed Nelson in the Lancashire combination League in the 50's and was then an assistant manager at Rochdale, So what could this un-experianced manager do in a short time
Just the European Cup, The League and the League Cup (plus European cup runner up, 2nd in the league)
Then came Kenny Dalglish with no managerial experiance at all and he could only "manage" to win in his 6 years
League titles = 3
F.A. Cups = 2
League Cups= 1
A lot of people will be thinking "yeah, yeah, typical scouser, living in the past. That is all history" and I know this but I have posted this because none of these managers were the top managers of their time, before managing Liverpool. I Hope the "club" take their time to get a new manager (even if he has no experiance at a top club) who has a vision of what a successful club is and how it should play and who to build a team around. It is not a case of manager x has 32 wins and 58 losses with his last team so he is not good enough as that team/club my not have the ambition to match that manager. It is all about finding the right man to have and implement his whole idea of how football should be played and to win competitions and no one can tell how well that will turn out untill it is tried.
So i say good luck to who ever it is and if it is Joe Bloggs who is the current manager of a non league side who has contacted Liverpool and explained a great vision he has for the club and a system which will get us into the champions league next year and a league title the year after. I will give him my support and hope he will emulate what are un-experienced managers of the past have done.
As we say round ear, go ed lad.
Bill Shankly- Carlisle(15th, 9th, 3rd), Grimsby(2nd, 5th), Workington(18th, 8th) and Huddersfield(12th, 9th, 14th) all 3rd division north teams, He never really had any success in his 10 years of managing these teams (finishing 2nd with Grimsby did not get promotion back then). He then went on to manage Liverpool, who were in the second division at the time. It took him a few years with not much money but what money he had he spent extremely well and built a team that would go on to promotion in 1962 (so that took him 3 years!) and won the league title in 1964.
I won't go on to say how well shanks did as most people in this thread will know.
Bob Paisley- Never managed a team before he managed Liverpool! He took over after the shock retirement of Shankly and had to be pushed into the job un-willingly. You would think that a man of few words like Paisley would buckle under the pressure of managing Liverpool but this is what he won in 9 years in charge
1st division winners = 6
European Cup = 3
Uefa Cup = 1
League Cup = 3
European super Cup = 1
Joe Fagan had 2 years in charge having only managed Nelson in the Lancashire combination League in the 50's and was then an assistant manager at Rochdale, So what could this un-experianced manager do in a short time
Just the European Cup, The League and the League Cup (plus European cup runner up, 2nd in the league)
Then came Kenny Dalglish with no managerial experiance at all and he could only "manage" to win in his 6 years
League titles = 3
F.A. Cups = 2
League Cups= 1
A lot of people will be thinking "yeah, yeah, typical scouser, living in the past. That is all history" and I know this but I have posted this because none of these managers were the top managers of their time, before managing Liverpool. I Hope the "club" take their time to get a new manager (even if he has no experiance at a top club) who has a vision of what a successful club is and how it should play and who to build a team around. It is not a case of manager x has 32 wins and 58 losses with his last team so he is not good enough as that team/club my not have the ambition to match that manager. It is all about finding the right man to have and implement his whole idea of how football should be played and to win competitions and no one can tell how well that will turn out untill it is tried.
So i say good luck to who ever it is and if it is Joe Bloggs who is the current manager of a non league side who has contacted Liverpool and explained a great vision he has for the club and a system which will get us into the champions league next year and a league title the year after. I will give him my support and hope he will emulate what are un-experienced managers of the past have done.
As we say round ear, go ed lad.
He did.
...and then he took half the back room staff and the top striker when he left. Effectively leaving the club up the creek.
Don't get me wrong. He worked wonders while he was here, but mainly in attack. Our defence was a comedy of errors and it took 2 successive managers to put that right.
Fact is, I am biased, so I'd rather Martinez got the job so we can strengthen this season and make a push to finish mid-table again. He must be getting bored scraping through relegation every season
I'd give the new manager until the January transfer window before they got the boot either way, such is the impatience in the modern game.
Got you out of League one and into the Championship, stop being so bitter
lol at Scotland
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I think you're the bitter one. Your initial post I replied to was basically "But.. But Martinez.. Why is everyone talking about Rodgers waaaa".
Fact is, he left the club on a high and took several key members of the back room (including lead scout iirc) and our top scorer. For any club I'd say that would be a hard pill to swallow.
As for Scotland, he was epic for us (90 goals in 45 games). Was the division's top scorer in his final season and got PFA player of the year before you guys took him and effectively ended his career
I really am, as a Liverpool fan from liverpool, bemused by all the talk of certain managers not being good enough. People who support other teams say that Liverpool fans "live in the past" and maybe, in choosing the new manager, we should look at our past and our past managers.
Bill Shankly- Carlisle(15th, 9th, 3rd), Grimsby(2nd, 5th), Workington(18th, 8th) and Huddersfield(12th, 9th, 14th) all 3rd division north teams, He never really had any success in his 10 years of managing these teams (finishing 2nd with Grimsby did not get promotion back then). He then went on to manage Liverpool, who were in the second division at the time. It took him a few years with not much money but what money he had he spent extremely well and built a team that would go on to promotion in 1962 (so that took him 3 years!) and won the league title in 1964.
I won't go on to say how well shanks did as most people in this thread will know.
Bob Paisley- Never managed a team before he managed Liverpool! He took over after the shock retirement of Shankly and had to be pushed into the job un-willingly. You would think that a man of few words like Paisley would buckle under the pressure of managing Liverpool but this is what he won in 9 years in charge
1st division winners = 6
European Cup = 3
Uefa Cup = 1
League Cup = 3
European super Cup = 1
Joe Fagan had 2 years in charge having only managed Nelson in the Lancashire combination League in the 50's and was then an assistant manager at Rochdale, So what could this un-experianced manager do in a short time
Just the European Cup, The League and the League Cup (plus European cup runner up, 2nd in the league)
Then came Kenny Dalglish with no managerial experiance at all and he could only "manage" to win in his 6 years
League titles = 3
F.A. Cups = 2
League Cups= 1
A lot of people will be thinking "yeah, yeah, typical scouser, living in the past. That is all history" and I know this but I have posted this because none of these managers were the top managers of their time, before managing Liverpool. I Hope the "club" take their time to get a new manager (even if he has no experiance at a top club) who has a vision of what a successful club is and how it should play and who to build a team around. It is not a case of manager x has 32 wins and 58 losses with his last team so he is not good enough as that team/club my not have the ambition to match that manager. It is all about finding the right man to have and implement his whole idea of how football should be played and to win competitions and no one can tell how well that will turn out untill it is tried.
So i say good luck to who ever it is and if it is Joe Bloggs who is the current manager of a non league side who has contacted Liverpool and explained a great vision he has for the club and a system which will get us into the champions league next year and a league title the year after. I will give him my support and hope he will emulate what are un-experienced managers of the past have done.
As we say round ear, go ed lad.
+1 All younger/unexperinced managers also cant bet better untill they get the bigger moves so there is that fact that allot of our supporters need to realise too
Inter have just offered Andrea Stramaccioni a 3 yr deal, he has been coaching for a year (u19s i think). Its the future
