'Dangerous Driving' by learner?

I can't remember what they taught me in my car driving test, but my bike test I was always told to get out of the danger zone (i.e. roundabouts and junctions) as quickly as possible and accelerate as briskly and as safely as the conditions allow. When I pull onto the motorway I plant my foot down to get to 70 ASAP (which admittedly only takes about 3s :p). I can't stand people that slow down pulling onto flowing dual carriageways or motorways.

I think you're entirely correct and that person was a complete muppet.
 
Dashik said:
Yours A Professional.

I refrained but only just :D
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Doooo ittttttttttt :D

Is that not half the fun though? I mean just because the limits 70 it does not mean that you cannot use the power of the car to advantage as long as you are safe, and no, for the record, I did not tell her to 'boot it'and make it awkward for the other driver.
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Im not saying you told her to boot it, and as a professional im sure you certainly wouldnt make it a dangerous situation. I also learnt in a Mini Cooper, and they are really good fun to drive, and my instructor also encouraged me to enjoy driving and allowed me to use the cars power when safe, and he aways told me if something I should watch out for was arising, and its something I would know to watch for next time.
 
I remember my driving instructor trying to dare me to take the car to 6krpm and when i didn't (too scared at the time!) i remember him saying "ahhhhhhhhh wimp!!"

Good times :p
 
Gaygle said:
I remember my driving instructor trying to dare me to take the car to 6krpm and when i didn't (too scared at the time!) i remember him saying "ahhhhhhhhh wimp!!"
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Mine would let me go to 5k before telling me to change, the car began to run out of steam at 5.5k anyways. Thats on a dual carriageway before anyone starts.
 
We were not directly behind your driver, we came off the roundabout and immediately manouvered into the outside lane. Your driver kept to the left. Drawing level, your pupil did seem to us to be overly accelerating thus preventing us from safely passing. We were not driving aggressively. However we did get the impression that your driver took the decision either by herself or had been told to 'put her foot down' It was a disgraceful show and could have put us all in a dangerous situation.
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If you were on a two lane dual carriageway, why does this person think they were being exposed to so much risk by remaining in the outside lane for longer than they anticipated? It's not like there is oncoming traffic to avoid. I do wonder how these people actually manage day to day driving.

The very fact that they took the time to email you about such a ridiculously trivial incident shows the kind of person they are. It's pointless arguing with them because this kind of whinging is one of the few pleasures they get in their pathetic lives, and in their mind they are convinced they are right irrespective of the facts.
 
Stellios said:
Mine would let me go to 5k before telling me to change, the car began to run out of steam at 5.5k anyways. Thats on a dual carriageway before anyone starts.
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revving up to 5k is a bit of a requirement in a wheezy 1.6 on a dual unless you want to get left behind by everybody :( I know this all too well.
 
On one of my lessons my driving instructor got an earful. Basically, it was a narrow road with cars on my side going around a corner (basically front to back for 100m or so), so seeing as far around the corner as possible, i continued slowly on the look out for an approaching car. Basically, met a car about 3/4 of the way along (its a long road known for curb parking). So i just stopped and reversed in to a space on the left so the woman could get passed. She then stopped when she was level and went on a rant:

"what the #### is he doing on my side of the road? Who the #### do you think you are not teaching him how to drive proper....etc" before driving off.

Thankfully, most drivers are actually nice to you when they see you're a learner.
 
Kudos for your restraint and understanding. I blew up at a ebay buyer tonight for far less.

The mood i'm in tonight would have generated the following "restrained" response from me:





Dear Mrs K Warrior,

Your awareness, observational skills and judgement sucks. Hard. I would know because I am an ADI and have **** loads of qualifications and years of experience which prove how awesome I am, whereas you have nothing but your clearly demonstrated incompetancy as a driver.

You are just bitter because your car is rubbish. If you had a better car, you wouldn't even have seen a lorry, because when you reached your destination it would have still be at the depot waiting to leave.

Do something productive in your life instead of emailing me this delusional claptrap.

Go scratch your backside or something.

That is all bumface, get a lesson first with a driving school, and then in life.

Much love,

The Master of Roadsmanship







*Phew* I feel a lot better after that.
 
So he/she wanted to get past in order to do 70mph.

Your student briskly sped up to and maintained 70mph, and the other car thinks that was done to prevent them overtaking?

Nothing illegal about rapid acceleration. If the other car wanted to go faster than the 70mph of your student, then they could have easily done 80mph, thus passing you. If they only want to do 70mph, they could slow down a bit, abort their manoeuvre, and pull in behind you.
 
BigglesPiP said:
So he/she wanted to get past in order to do 70mph.

Your student briskly sped up to and maintained 70mph, and the other car thinks that was done to prevent them overtaking?

Nothing illegal about rapid acceleration. If the other car wanted to go faster than the 70mph of your student, then they could have easily done 80mph, thus passing you. If they only want to do 70mph, they could slow down a bit, abort their manoeuvre, and pull in behind you.
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Pretty much how I saw it tbh :D
 
I am a learner and I totally know what you mean. I drive very safe and cautious but some people just don't have the time or care in the world for that and put themselves in danger and you while they try to over take you with lots of traffic coming from the other way!

This has happened to me countless times, and to make it worse I was doing the 40mph speed limit! the other person was doing around 60!
 
Lopéz said:
As a learner I was always taught (in these exact words)

"Make progress - use the power and accelerate promptly to the limit"
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Me too, get up to speed as quick as possible safely.

And in your situation, coming off a multi lane roundabout into a dual carriage way that's open, free flowing traffic I would expect to put the foot down and get up to the speed limit. And when I get there, if others want to break the law and speed and overtake that's their prerogative.
 
Dashik said:
An ADI friend suggested i send this -

Dear Mrs R.Sole

I have passed your e-mail onto the local police who will be greatly interested in why you so freely admit to exceeding the legal speed limit, and driving without due care and attention.

I would like to take this opportunity to offer you a discount on a block of remedial lessons in order that you can learn to drive properly, in accordance with the rules of the highway code, and so that you can stay within the confines of the Road Traffic Act. Unfortunately, it may take you some time to achieve the level of competence required to reach the basic standard. But I'm sure, if you are prepared to put in the effort, you will one day get to be as good a driver as the rest of my pupils.

Yours A Professional.

I refrained but only just :D
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lol quality.

my instructor always made me do this..... get to the limit ASAP and "make progress" so often that would lead to someone trying to overtake, lets say on a slip road, while i gun it upto 5000rpm in 2nd and 3rd (1.2 fiesta remember) and they sit there trying to get past probably in 4th or 5th lol.

To this day i still get extremely angery with people merging onto dual or motorways at well under the speed of the traffic already on the road.
 
Secret_Window said:
I am a learner and I totally know what you mean. I drive very safe and cautious but some people just don't have the time or care in the world for that and put themselves in danger and you while they try to over take you with lots of traffic coming from the other way!

This has happened to me countless times, and to make it worse I was doing the 40mph speed limit! the other person was doing around 60!
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Irrelavent though seeing as this happened on a dual carriageway, hence they could have stayed in the outside lane for as long as they wanted causing no danger to anybody.

Also you seem to take it personally that people overtake you, don't. While you might be doing the limit i'd still want to get by because learners are almost always slow and hesitant at junctions, nobody wants to be held up. Once you have passed you will soon get up to speed, so to speak :p
 
Clarkey said:
Irrelavent though seeing as this happened on a dual carriageway, hence they could have stayed in the outside lane for as long as they wanted causing no danger to anybody.

Also you seem to take it personally that people overtake you, don't. While you might be doing the limit i'd still want to get by because learners are almost always slow and hesitant at junctions, nobody wants to be held up. Once you have passed you will soon get up to speed, so to speak :p
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I don't take it personally, I just have seen some idiotic things some people do overtaking.

No need to get on your high horse.
 
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