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Dark days, AMD share price at lowest ever.

All of those things are contributing to the dire situation AMD currently find themselves in as a business...

Pump QC issues putting people off buying Fury X and costing AMD in terms of RMA's.
Less VRAM than their competitor due to HBM issues makes Fury far less attractive.
Far lower tessellation performance than their competitor meaning AMD are resorting to driver cheats.
Putting premium prices on previously value products.
Rebadging their line-up with Fury the only actual new GPU (didn't even bother updating old products to their latest GCN1.2 architecture).

All of the above adds up to a company that is in serious trouble both now and going forward, assuming they can survive long enough AMD really can't afford for Zen not to be a big success.

That's not something they can just knock up in a few minutes, it would require 'almost' as much work as designing a whole new processor.
 
I can understand the re-badge, I don't know a lot of GPU design and manufacturing but from what I've read it's not a simple job to simply stick a whole new chip design on existing cards.

I have to say the driver hack is a story that's not really got that much attention from the media. AMD deliberately held back performance on existing products so it could make the new products look good. Tut, tut tut.
 
All of those things are contributing to the dire situation AMD currently find themselves in as a business...

Pump QC issues putting people off buying Fury X and costing AMD in terms of RMA's.
Less VRAM than their competitor due to HBM issues makes Fury far less attractive.
Far lower tessellation performance than their competitor meaning AMD are resorting to driver cheats.
Putting premium prices on previously value products.
Rebadging their line-up with Fury the only actual new GPU (didn't even bother updating old products to their latest GCN1.2 architecture).

All of the above adds up to a company that is in serious trouble both now and going forward, assuming they can survive long enough AMD really can't afford for Zen not to be a big success.

You're exaggerating somewhat. Its not that bad, The Fury-X is 33% behind in Tessellation but 40% ahead in Texel Fill, win some lose some, Maxwell is better in some areas GCN better in others.

And they don't use Driver cheats.





http://www.anandtech.com/show/9390/the-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review/23
 
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Matt, last year i have purchased a 290X with an FX8350, overclock both as the hell, worked smooth, nice.

I have replaced the CPU for a 4790K this as i needed more power and the VGA is a 980Ti.

From now as i see the difference it will be very hard to prove me i want to go back and i think i'm not alone...
 
Matt, last year i have purchased a 290X with an FX8350, overclock both as the hell, worked smooth, nice.

I have replaced the CPU for a 4790K this as i needed more power and the VGA is a 980Ti.

From now as i see the difference it will be very hard to prove me i want to go back and i think i'm not alone...

so you had a 150€ cpu and a 300-400€ graphics card and changed it to a 350€ cpu and a 700+€ gpu and you wonder it performs better and smoother...

wow must be magic lol
 
It sounds good, its nice to have goals and plans of how your going to get there.

We all hope that it doesn't end up a case of aim for the summit but crash in the foothills.

How much accessible cash do they have?

i know its about $3.5BN in assets and cash reserves, it would be interesting to know how much of it is the latter.
 
Agreed pointless threads! Not just GPU but anything I buy never comes from me looking at how X company is doing!
I buy a product if its fits what am looking for...

Close this pointless thread.

What happens if the company did go bust though? You'd have no warranty. Would that meet your requirements when it's broken and you can't return it?

I'm not saying AMD are going bust but i genuinely think looking at companies position financially before you make purchases of products you expect to last a long time is a good idea.

BFG's 10 year warranty is pretty useless these days. As is SAAB's.
 
Normal AMD. They've got pump\driver\supply\HDMI 2.0\cash problems and what do they do?

that's right show nice pictures with BS in between. AMD should sell it off and let someone else bring out a NVidia beater.

wow man you have a nice insight whats going on at amd teach me senpai i also want to know soo much about a company that you not work at and especially not work at higher ranks
 
What happens if the company did go bust though? You'd have no warranty. Would that meet your requirements when it's broken and you can't return it?

I'm not saying AMD are going bust but i genuinely think looking at companies position financially before you make purchases of products you expect to last a long time is a good idea.

BFG's 10 year warranty is pretty useless these days. As is SAAB's.

The warranty is with the board partner. not AMD.
 
so you had a 150€ cpu and a 300-400€ graphics card and changed it to a 350€ cpu and a 700+€ gpu and you wonder it performs better and smoother...

wow must be magic lol

No man, the lol is i wanted to stay with AMD but since 5 years they don't have solution for people needs.

Secondly i always prefered AMD products than others, but now what i see from the red side ppl are loling on me because i havent choose the cheaper/weaker solution instead of the opposite.

Man, i just realized, you are right, from now i will spend more money, but not for the AMD products anymore.

no one can be more harmful to AMD than the fans. Thanks man.
 
How much accessible cash do they have?

i know its about $3.5BN in assets and cash reserves, it would be interesting to know how much of it is the latter.

They have 2.5bn in "assets". Assets will be a mix of things like goodwill, patents etc. and equipment like office equipment and such, so its not really stuff that can be "realised", e.g. converted to cash very easily.
 
AMD are best placed to bring an Nvidia Mallet, they just need the cash injection.


They said that about Greece.
If you haven't got the right people in place to start off with, then it's doomed.

It took about 8 MONTHS to get some good drivers to us 200 users.
Last year they had driver updates and fix's every month. So what happened?

wow man you have a nice insight whats going on at amd teach me senpai i also want to know soo much about a company that you not work at and especially not work at higher ranks

You don't need insight to see from a customers point of view were they are failing.
 
They have 2.5bn in "assets". Assets will be a mix of things like goodwill, patents etc. and equipment like office equipment and such, so its not really stuff that can be "realised", e.g. converted to cash very easily.

$3.43BN as of Q1 http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/ADVANCED_MICRO_DEVICES_%28AMD%29/Data/Total_Assets

They said that about Greece.
If you haven't got the right people in place to start off with, then it's doomed.

It took about 8 MONTHS to get some good drivers to us 200 users.
Last year they had driver updates and fix's every month. So what happened?



You don't need insight to see from a customers point of view were they are failing.

You can't compare Greece to AMD in the same way you can't compare Greece to the UK with an even higher deficit per capita than Greece.
 
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