David Cameron looking to ban gay kisses...

And what's with the increasingly aggressive stance of (some) gay activists. Like taking small guest house owners to court because they wouldn't rent them a room. Some of us deeply sympathise with that guest house owner, if he didn't want a gay couple sharing a bed in his house. But that's another thread.

No they took him to court because he would allow married straight couples to sleep together (all non married people required separate beds straight or gay) yet they had the civil partnership which should mean they're entitled to the same treatment as married straight people.
 
No they took him to court because he would allow married straight couples to sleep together (all non married people required separate beds straight or gay) yet they had the civil partnership which should mean they're entitled to the same treatment as married straight people.

They took him to court over one night's lost intimacy? Did it really affect their quality of life so badly that they couldn't sleep in the same bed for one night?

Do they think they can win hearts and minds with solicitors? That's what I mean by aggressively pursuing their "rights" and refusing to accommodate people whose conscience differs from theirs. Because their right to do what the want is now enshrined in law, and a persons moral conscience isn't.
 
But do answer me this (and getting back on topic). Do gay people honestly believe, that if you expose a straight individual to enough gay imagery (TV, pride marches, whatever), that you will erode that basic "ewww!" reaction that we instinctively have when watching gay people touching, kissing, holding hands?

So you don't think that the "basic reaction" is a result of what they have been influenced by? It comes naturally etc.
 
They took him to court over one night's lost intimacy? Did it really affect their quality of life so badly that they couldn't sleep in the same bed for one night?

I imagine it's, because they're worried about what other services they could be denied.

And it put a damper on their holiday.



Do they think they can win hearts and minds with solicitors? That's what I mean by aggressively pursuing their "rights" and refusing to accommodate people whose conscience differs from theirs. .

Well if the guy simply had the rule "no screwing" then it would probably be fine, the problem is he let married people do it but not people with a civil partnership.

besides I think the BB owner won anyway.



Because their right to do what the want is now enshrined in law, and a persons moral conscience isn't


So should shops be allowed a "No blacks" sign?
 
So you don't think that the "basic reaction" is a result of what they have been influenced by? It comes naturally etc.

Speculation, of course, but I don't think it's got a lot to do with upbringing. Perhaps if you raised a kid in an environment where he was only exposed to homosexual ralitionships... maybe. But with exposure to both, a straight kid is naturally going to have that "ewww" reaction based on his own preference for women.

It's hard-wired, I would imagine ;)

/speculation
 
I don't think this thread is going anywhere. I don't think the government is going to or even trying to ban gay kisses in public anyway.

Some people are homophobic and ignorant - I think it's a generational thing as most young people I know don't care.
 
While I dont hate gay people, I dont think its something that should be encouraged to young people. If you turn out to be gay then fair enough. But its not really the preferred outcome.

I don't think you can be turned gay by seeing it on TV. No amount of man on man action in between episodes of QI and Top Gear is going to make me a homosexual.
 
Explain why a boy with many sisters has a higher probability of becoming gay or femine than another boy with many brothers.

Incorrect. Having more older brothers increases the chances of a younger male sibling becoming gay.

Citation - Genetics module at uni, two genetics professors, and my Human Hereditary text book.

please explain bi sexuals if homosexuality is not a choice.

All embryos begin developing their life as female, with fully bi-potential development cycles which can cause the embryo to become either male or female based on their sex determining chromosomes which determine whether male or female hormones are released during fetal development (fact). There is a theory that all human life also begins as bisexual with sexual phenotypes occurring due to the levels of male or female hormones that the embryo is exposed to while developing in the womb (not a fact, but has a lot of supportive evidence).
 
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Speculation, of course, but I don't think it's got a lot to do with upbringing. Perhaps if you raised a kid in an environment where he was only exposed to homosexual ralitionships... maybe. But with exposure to both, a straight kid is naturally going to have that "ewww" reaction based on his own preference for women.

It's hard-wired, I would imagine ;)

/speculation

I was raised in a pretty much heterosexual environment, have no homosexual feelings and have never had that "eww" feeling when seeing two blokes kissing. It doesn't turn me on and it doesn't turn me off. Guess it isn't hard wired, maybe it is a learned response...
 
That wouldn't matter, it would not be taught in schools because gay sexual activity cannot produce offspring. The whole point of sex education is to educate kids on reproduction, not to get their rocks off.

Erm, no.

Sex education has nothing to do with teaching kids how to reproduce, that is Biology.

Sex education teaches about safer sex, contraceptives and STDs, and covers homosexuality as well. In my school, we were asked to anonymously write down how we would react if one of our friends told us they were gay, and we also got to practice rolling condoms onto dildos, but that was completely optional.
 
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when i was born and human genetics dedicated it to be that way.

Maybe homosexuality is evolution of depopulating the world.

First part is very likely to be true, just as it is very likely to be true about homosexuality.

The second part is false because homosexuality has existed since the dawn of mankind, and I think we are overpopulated enough as it is even with gay people having been around for so long.

Homosexuality doesnt do anything to stop heterosexuals from breeding and creating more offspring, in case you didnt realize such an obvious fact.

I dont have to add another variable to that to confuse the hell out of my child.

I dont think that anyone at all while I was at school found learning about homosexuality in sex ed to be confusing, maybe unless they were in the special needs / lowest sets, but in that case they would also find multiplication confusing, and that doesnt mean that kids shouldnt be taught how to multiply.

And I'm talking about multiplication in maths there by the way :p
 
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We don't even know what effect it would have on a child to be raised that way. But there's enough gay couples doing it these days so we'll have the data soon enough...

Would most likely be hell for the kid throughout high-school tho :(

I disagree that having same sex parents would be disadvantageous for any child, and you can also feel free to ask this gay couple on youtube or simply listen to them speak about how their life is after they adopted a disabled kid and his sister:

 
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I disagree that having same sex parents would be disadvantageous for any child

Even if they did get bullied constantly at school? I could imagine straight parents vs gay parents, the gay parents child would get a whole lot more bullying... But then again, if the alternative to gay parents would be living in a orphanage or something, it may be better for the family caring aspect.

Something else I'd worry about is the lack of a female(gay parents) or male(lesbian) influence on the child... I'd imagine a boy growing up in a lesbian household could be extremely frustrating with no male figure to advise or talk sense... I think an ideal situation would involve male and female parent figures for that kind of reason, but then again, as opposed to living in some orphanage somewhere or going foster parent to foster parent having gay parents might be better...

Maybe an ideal system for gay adoptions would be to have a gay couple matched with a lesbian couple, and they could all bring up their children together as a little tribe. hmmm, musings.
 
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