Soldato
Lesbians kissing is ok but men kissing is gross so that should be banned yeah but let the lesbos do as much as they want on screen. 
David Cameron looking to ban gay kisses...
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Caporegime
*sigh*
(at some posters, not the Fail's failed article as that doesn't even warrant one)
(at some posters, not the Fail's failed article as that doesn't even warrant one)
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Encourage all you like, it wont make a difference if someone turns out gay or not, might make them more tollerent but heaven forbid we wouldnt want that to happen would we
Only if you are a female yourself though.
Watching two people of the same sex as you kissing is different from watching two people of the opposite sex kissing.
Man of Honour
If I see 2 blokes making out on TV I don't go "OMG WHAT IS THIS OUTRAGE???" and suddenly man the hatemobile, I have no reaction at all in fact.
Although 2 girls kissing might result in a little movement down below
Although 2 girls kissing might result in a little movement down below
Caporegime
How is it not normal? Please explain.
The 'preferred outcome'? Seriously? Whether you 'encourage' young people or not I'd wager it'll have very little influence on their actual sexuality, only on whether they choose to realise and accept it. If you see two men kissing you don't suddenly go "oh, I fancy that!". I came to be gay just like you (I presume) came to be straight. I became attracted to men and there was not a lot anyone could do about it.
Imagine if being straight was the minority. Do you think you'd feel any different about being attracted to females? Wouldn't it be great if people just accepted your straightness, huh? Wouldn't that be novel!
Caporegime
I can almost guarantee that men react in a far more unnerved manner to 2 men kissing than women do to 2 women.
Pretty much every woman I know has had the snog with a femme mate, something that no guys I know could say apart from the gay ones.
Girls don't care as much as the understand that it has no impact or effect on their own sexuality, whereas many guys are freaked out by it for some unknown reason.
Man of Honour
Some girls do have a freaked out reaction to 2 girls kissing 
I know one especially that thinks it's beyond gross!
Crazy...
I know one especially that thinks it's beyond gross!Crazy...
Associate
"Normal" and "natural" are both very suspect reasons for someone being opposed to gay people and/or their activities being shown.
Lots of us do things which aren't "normal," and they aren't frowned upon at all. Modding computer cases isn't "normal," nor is bungee jumping or any number of other things which don't harm anyone else... (unless you're very unlucky with the bungee jumping...)
Lots of us do things which aren't "natural," as well - and some things which are VERY natural are widely thought to be Very Bad™. If I smashed your head in with a club and stole your wife(!), I'd be acting definitively "naturally."
But it's just another daft/pointless law which we'll probably never hear anything more about. And everyone forgets the power of Not Watching It If You Don't Like It™.
Lots of us do things which aren't "normal," and they aren't frowned upon at all. Modding computer cases isn't "normal," nor is bungee jumping or any number of other things which don't harm anyone else... (unless you're very unlucky with the bungee jumping...)
Lots of us do things which aren't "natural," as well - and some things which are VERY natural are widely thought to be Very Bad™. If I smashed your head in with a club and stole your wife(!), I'd be acting definitively "naturally."
But it's just another daft/pointless law which we'll probably never hear anything more about. And everyone forgets the power of Not Watching It If You Don't Like It™.
I don't think it is 'normal' either, however the world would be a pretty boring place if we were all 'normal'. Normal is not the same as Natural either, while I think it is not normal, I don't hold that it is un-natural as some do. Attitudes toward homosexuality are generally determined by society and what may seem normal to one is not to another.
It makes me uncomfortable if I see it in public, but that is my issue, not theirs. They should be free to do the same as anyone else.
As for the 9pm watershed, that should also count for ALL sexually explicit scenes, regardless of orientation. (Much depends on how you define sexually explicit however)
"Normal".
What the hell is "normal" anyway? People seem to confuse "normal" for being "right" or "correct" and anything that isn't "normal" is "wrong", "unnatural", when it fact that's hardly the case.
By the same logic, anything that is different, anything that doesn't follow the common line/view/feeling is suddenly wrong and abhorrent.
Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it wrong. Just because you would never do something, doesn't mean that other people shouldn't do it. It may not be normal in the sense that everyone is gay, but it certainly isn't an abhorrent, evil thing that unfortunately a few people in this thread seem to make it out to be, whether they intend to or not.
And to be honest, it is all actually very normal to those who are gay.
What the hell is "normal" anyway? People seem to confuse "normal" for being "right" or "correct" and anything that isn't "normal" is "wrong", "unnatural", when it fact that's hardly the case.
By the same logic, anything that is different, anything that doesn't follow the common line/view/feeling is suddenly wrong and abhorrent.
Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it wrong. Just because you would never do something, doesn't mean that other people shouldn't do it. It may not be normal in the sense that everyone is gay, but it certainly isn't an abhorrent, evil thing that unfortunately a few people in this thread seem to make it out to be, whether they intend to or not.
And to be honest, it is all actually very normal to those who are gay.
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It doesn't make it retract at all?!
Unless your insecure about your own sexuality, why would it?
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Honestly, i think the thread title alone is so much a fictitious lie it could be considered slander.
Can we please make a new thread along the lines of 'the rights and wrongs of gay' rather than positing in this garbage? People reading the thread title and joining the thread wont realise its baseless lies
Can we please make a new thread along the lines of 'the rights and wrongs of gay' rather than positing in this garbage? People reading the thread title and joining the thread wont realise its baseless lies
Man of Honour
Okay, so ban any showing of sexuality then, that includes daytime TV showing people wearing skimpy outfits like on Countdown because you know, the children might "whoah I'm 12 and what is this".
I think it's a gigantic waste of time and money, stuff like this.
I think it's a gigantic waste of time and money, stuff like this.
This is almost certainly because of the pressure/expectation that is put on men to be 'manly', and that definition tends to be exclusively straight.
Probably because Lesbians are not quite as aggressive in their sexuality as Gay Men, as a rule.
EDIT: I asked the wife and she said that it makes her feel uncomfortable as well, (watching the same sex as her of course)
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Caporegime
This is soooooo true it is actually scary.
Of course.
Its not very common on the whole, therefore I wouldn't consider it part of the 'norm', in the way you mean it.
I don't think any less of someone because they are gay (unless they are one of those in your face, camp as christmas types) but its not something I would consider normal in the same way I consider heterosexual stuff as normal.
It also probably has something to do with the fact I find it distasteful, which doesn't help
But as Castiel has said above, thats my problem, not yours
