David Cameron looking to ban gay kisses...

PMKeates · 3 May 2011 at 14:39

kenmare said:
I (my opinion) think that this would be achieved better for obvious reasons if they were straight.

Do you not realise that it's actually your opinion, and your imposition of this opinion, that gives that statement any potential truth? If you held no such opinion, no such bias, then they'd be no reason to think such a thing.

Vonhelmet · 3 May 2011 at 14:39

kenmare said:
I think every sane person would wish for their children to grow up to be happy, good people.

I (my opinion) think that this would be achieved better for obvious reasons if they were straight.

It would be achieved better if people were tolerant of gay people. That would be a far greater goal to achieve than for us to stop showing gay kisses on TV because we believe it will somehow turn children gay.

lixxus · 3 May 2011 at 14:39

If gays managed to have kids some how through adoption or other means. How would you feel if your kid wasn't gay ?
Would you want a gay kid ?

RDM · 3 May 2011 at 14:40

lixxus said:
what if by explaining to your kid homos, you may influence his sexuality from the normal.

Does that not go to show that homosexuality is a choice ?

Do you know any homosexual people? If so ask them if they chose to be homosexual. Considering the amount of antipathy in this thread towards homosexuality who on earth is going to say "Yeah, I want some of that!". Of the gay people I know none of them made the concious choice to be gay. But then of the heterosexual people I know (myself included) none of them made the concious choice to be heterosexual either.

Twentyone · 3 May 2011 at 14:40

It's funny how it's all talk about "his/him" and male gays and zero arguments why it's so horrible when women are.

oulton · 3 May 2011 at 14:40

DID YOU SEE THAT PROGRAM ABOUT THE GAY DADS WHO ADOPTED A KID WHO WAS LIKE 6 AND WAS SAYING HOW GREAT IT WAS TO BE GAY??

ok sorry about the caps, i know they offend peoples sensibilities, but id you see that program?

krooton · 3 May 2011 at 14:41

lixxus said:
what if by explaining to your kid homos, you may influence his sexuality from the normal.

Does that not go to show that homosexuality is a choice ?

Supply the proof, and I will consider the evidence.

I've played violent video games all my life, and have been in a grand total of 1 fight.

Morgoth · 3 May 2011 at 14:41

Twentyone said:
It's funny how it's all talk about "his/him" and male gays and zero arguments why it's so horrible when women are.

Being a male dominated forum the bias is expected.

PMKeates · 3 May 2011 at 14:41

lixxus said:
If gays managed to have kids someone. How would you feel if your kid wasn't gay ?
Would you want a gay kid ?

I wouldn't mind. I have lots of happy relationships with straight people. Most of my friends and relatives are straight and it doesn't impede anything.

Gackt · 3 May 2011 at 14:42

RDM said:
But then of the heterosexual people I know (myself included) none of them made the concious choice to be heterosexual either.

No, because there are a majority of heterosexual people, and all they know how is to be heterosexual, the thought of not being hetero is abhorrent, wrong, misguided, or a disability.

Twentyone · 3 May 2011 at 14:43

krooton said:
I've played violent video games all my life, and have been in a grand total of 1 fight.

I have played violent video games and grown up around gay men and women.

I must be doomed :eek:

lixxus · 3 May 2011 at 14:43

RDM said:
Do you know any homosexual people? If so ask them if they chose to be homosexual. Considering the amount of antipathy in this thread towards homosexuality who on earth is going to say "Yeah, I want some of that!". Of the gay people I know none of them made the concious choice to be gay. But then of the heterosexual people I know (myself included) none of them made the concious choice to be heterosexual either.

yes that's what i am trying to point out. That because kids are easily plausible and naive and innocent. If you told them that being gay was normal . they might start playing kiss chase with harry instead of rebecca in school.

Then you got a real problem with teachers and parents on your hand

Bald-Eagle22 · 3 May 2011 at 14:44

Seems like there is a lot of love for the homsexual community on this forum .

Think I had best accept that I have been miss informed all my life and that all your opinions are correct . My biggoted lifestyle has to change and my children should all grow up as gay lovers that eat lentils , go on peace marches and vote for the green party when they are old enough .

Seems I have been wrong all my life , where is the nearest Gay Bar then ?

RDM · 3 May 2011 at 14:45

Gackt said:
No, because there are a majority of heterosexual people, and all they know how is to be heterosexual, the thought of not being hetero is abhorrent, wrong, misguided, or a disability.

I agree with you entirely, in fact every time I see my left handed brother I feel exactly the same. How could such a person choose to be left handed? Does he not know it is abhorrent, wrong, misguided, a disability or just frankly sinister?

(please note, the above post may contain above normal levels of sarcasm)

Pate · 3 May 2011 at 14:45

Twentyone said:
Health risks? Gays have more risks than straight people? And the mental health problem are only a result of the discrimination! If it was as normal as being straight then.. what mental health problem would there be that would go for gay people only?

I couldn't care less if my kids turn out gay as long as they are happy.

Fancy proving that? Also, gays don't need their "own" mental illness, depression/suicide etc etc are not specific to either sexuality.

The only thing I agree with is that I would wish for my children to be happy in whatever avenue they seek. I just think that a woman is the best way for a man to be happy.

PMKeates said:
Holy WOW. Since when did you discover the meaning of life? Go you!

All those philosophers are gonna be glad you saved them a lifetime of pondering.

Just thought I'd point it out to you seeing as you are not in a position to know.

Yes, nice generalisation. I pointed out the very basics of existance, but for what we would call normal sex, none of us would be here.

The nuances of our existance (philosophies, art, music etc) are what make us unique and human, not a core.

Gackt said:
In an ideal world you would want your child to grow up to be what they want to be, not what you want them to be. You'd want your child to be happy, regardless if that's gay or straight, religious or non-religious. Anything else is superfluous.

In the ideal world I'd want my child to grow up happy yes. And in my opinion I think that would come through engaging in a healthy relationship with a member of the opposite sex. Where do you think my child would come from?

However as I've stressed, their life is their own.

Gackt · 3 May 2011 at 14:45

lixxus said:
yes that's what i am trying to point out. That because kids are easily plausible and naive and innocent. If you told them that being gay was normal . they might start playing kiss chase with harry instead of rebecca in school.

Then you got a real problem with teachers and parents on your hand

You're already influencing them, by your logic, that saying that boys must be with girls and that there is no other way. You're denying them the truth. It doesn't mean that because they've been told it's not wrong, that they're going to go around kissing boys, you have simply told them the truth.

Morgoth · 3 May 2011 at 14:45

Bald-Eagle22 said:
Seems like there is a lot of love for the homsexual community on this forum .

Think I had best accept that I have been miss informed all my life and that all your opinions are correct . My biggoted lifestyle has to change and my children should all grow up as gay lovers that eat lentils , go on peace marches and vote for the green party when they are old enough .

Seems I have been wrong all my life , where is the nearest Gay Bar then ?

I kinda facepalmed.

krooton · 3 May 2011 at 14:47

Gackt said:
No, because there are a majority of heterosexual people, and all they know how is to be heterosexual, the thought of not being hetero is abhorrent, wrong, misguided, or a disability.

Majority you say? Pretty sure the majority of hetero people don't give a damn because it doesn't effect them in any way.

I can accept that people have different views on things in life, but I just cannot socialise with people who have the view of homosexuality being some disgusting thing that should not exist. It's a maker or breaker on how I view a person.

"andy" · 3 May 2011 at 14:48

lixxus said:
If gays managed to have kids some how through adoption or other means. How would you feel if your kid wasn't gay ?
Would you want a gay kid ?

i think that unlike hetro couples who usually want a hetro kid they would be more likely not to care about wether the child was gay/straight because they would know that it isnt ''choice''

i know someone with 2 mums and she didnt 'turn out' gay if thats what you mean though.

lixxus · 3 May 2011 at 14:48

Gackt said:
You're already influencing them, by your logic, that saying that boys must be with girls and that there is no other way. You're denying them the truth. It doesn't mean that because they've been told it's not wrong, that they're going to go around kissing boys, you have simply told them the truth.

you are missing the point. If we are already influencing them, doesnt that go to show that they had a choice at a young age.

The same way a child is born into being Christian or muslim.