Death

MookJong said:
Most of us don't remember our great-grandparents or know really anything about them, it's mad to think how quickly you will be completely forgotten.
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Very true.
I hardly know anything of my grandparents parents.

Although 48 Year old great great great grandmother Mary from the estate....
 
MookJong said:
Most of us don't remember our great-grandparents or know really anything about them, it's mad to think how quickly you will be completely forgotten.
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One way of looking at it.

Then again the way this planet is killing itself I doubt very much that will be a future concern.
 
Amalcarb said:
Death?

We fall asleep and don’t wake up…but Do we really disappear completely?

As my kids and grand children have my genes in them my presence might be gone but my DNA and ways of thinking and certain mirror looks remain.


Death is what you make of it..I remain convinced we don’t completely leave this earth without leaving a calling card behind in our children . With that in mind I will go to my eternal rest with a peace in mind That outweighs any fear
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Exactly, you gotta make the most of it
 
Not my own yet... well now I have... thanks.

More of my Inlaws. They are in their 70s, showing clear signs of mental degeneration. Physical issues such as mobility, parkinsonisms, etc.

The sheer complexity of what is to come if and when they pass. The unpleasantness bound to arise between siblings over money (not a small amount either... his company did 1mill last year. One man band)...

It's not nice to think about, but one must now and again. When they are 80, I might call a family meeting to discuss it.. which will bring the "only visit if need to borrow money" members out of the woodwork. Bah. Meh, gross.
 
It's ok, it's just like sleep.

Except you don't dream and you never wake up.

I mean, yeh if you don't kid yourself into all the made up JuJu that humans have invented to cope with the immensely horrifying awareness of our own existence, it is...well immensely horrifying.

You will die, and you will be completely forgotten in a few generations (or sooner), and your existence will have been nothing but a meaningless and insignificant little dot in the grand scheme of things.
 
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Jono8 said:
It's ok, it's just like sleep.

Except you don't dream and you never wake up.

I mean, yeh if you don't kid yourself into all the made up JuJu that humans have invented to cope with the immensely horrifying awareness of our own existence, it is...well immensely horrifying.

You will die, and you will be completely forgotten in a few generations (or sooner), and your existence will have been nothing but a meaningless and insignificant little dot in the grand scheme of things.
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Crazy isn't it :o the lack of existing is far more of a concern than the being forgotten part. Although we are looking at it through a human (Western) lense. We talk about absolutes.

I'm sure I read a quote once which said "either there is an afterlife or there isn't, both ideas are equally terrifying". I suppose the opposite of death is living forever, another concept which is hard to comprehend :cry: and also impossible, according to current understanding at least. Then again, isn't it impossible to create something out of nothing?
 
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I remember when i was about 10 years old my Grandad on my fathers side of the family died.
They had him laid out in an open coffin in the front room and insisted we all went and had a look / paid respects etc
That totally freaked me out and for years after i had nightmares waking up in the middle of the night scared of dying
Now i am 58 lost my mother 8 years ago to cancer
I have started laying awake at night thinking about it
I live alone. no family no siblings no close friends
I feel i am destined to be ''that guy'' the one that dies alone and is not found for months
In a way it makes me chuckle and sad at the same time.
But as others have said it's inevitable
 
sigma said:
Crazy isn't it :o the lack of existing is far more of a concern than the being forgotten part. Although we are looking at it through a human (Western) lense. We talk about absolutes.

I'm sure I read a quote once which said "either there is an afterlife or there isn't, both ideas are equally terrifying". I suppose the opposite of death is living forever, another concept which is hard to comprehend :cry: and also impossible, according to current understanding at least. Then again, isn't it impossible to create something out of nothing?
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Arthur C Clark quote mixed up a bit I'd imagine.
The original quote is "Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying."

As to death, I always remember the feeling of having to do my will at 18 before leaving for my first tour of Iraq and the realisation of things as I boarded the plane at Brize. Everything i was doing had a new finality to it, from having my full English breakfast, to watching the UK disappear behind me as we took off.

Getting over there and getting on with the job you soon become accustomed and each day is just a subconscious acceptance that today maybe the last.

I was one of the lucky ones, I got to come back home, but there were those I knew that didn't, dealing with the mortality of others I found the most difficult. Here chatting one second, and gone the next.

No one wants to die, not really, but facing that fear is life, and not hiding from it, it should give one a sense of purpose and a determined heart, each day until the end.
 
tom_e said:
Not my own death but I'm definitely starting to think about my parents more often now they're in their mid 60s and I'd like my daughter to get as much time as possible with them.
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This. It fills me with dread just thinking about it.

(Conversely, I only think about my own death when I want to cheer myself up :p :p Who would actually want to live forever in this messed up, miserable world we've created..)
 
sigma said:
Because being alive is kinda interesting, even if there is a lot of suffering. Not existing for infinity seems... rather crazy? Even though I guess technically it's already been like that before.

Mindboggling...
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Yes but you won't know or care that you're dead. I'm not particularly interested in the actual death part of dying either but I don't fear it. I'm more concerned about any effects on loved ones but to me it's like being afraid of going into a deep sleep. It's just a much much longer sleep :P.

As has been said above, everything we do is ultimately insignificant in the grand scale of the universe. I think that's freeing, if it doesn't matter then the only pressure is that which you put on yourself.
 
FoxEye said:
This. It fills me with dread just thinking about it.

(Conversely, I only think about my own death when I want to cheer myself up :p :p Who would actually want to live forever in this messed up, miserable world we've created..)
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I'll miss my parents, I'd miss any loved one when they're gone. But they don't care at that point, they can't, so don't feel bad for them, they're free.

It's daft but I try and think of it from the perspective of an animal, lets say my pet dog. He just lives, does his thing, he doesn't know or care about the concept of death. Sure he doesn't want to die, be hurt, but the not existing part doesn't occur to him at all. One day he'll just stop and he won't care about it when he has either :D. I'll miss him though.
 
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