Define Posh

[TW]Fox;13169029 said:
Surely thats simply correct prenounciation, not 'posh' :confused:
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Nope, I wouldn't have said so, you're simply throwing in extra vowels and consonants where none need exist. If that is what correct pronounciation is for you then knock yourself out with that but it seems more than a little redundant to me.

laissez-faire said:
Well it's going to be pretty bloody vague if you're just a pleb.
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Que? That seems a pretty rubbish way of reckoning, if you trace far enough back then almost everyone probably has links to some landed gentry of the time, that doesn't make you posh, it just means that someone in your family cared enough to trace your genealogy.

dangerstat said:
Okay so hands up, who on here would confess to being posh?
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I wouldn't have said I was posh in any way shape or form but I've been accused of it a few times, mainly because I don't quite sound typical Edinburgh apparantly and my parents live in quite a nice area. Class is a bit of a pointless distinction though, I'd much prefer to judge and be judged on actions and courtesy shown than what social grouping people could be ascribed.
 
semi-pro waster said:
Nope, I wouldn't have said so, you're simply throwing in extra vowels and consonants where none need exist. If that is what correct pronounciation is for you then knock yourself out with that but it seems more than a little redundant to me.
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I was about to post how utterly daft you are for thinking that, until I had a thought about it myself. You are quite right, the 'commoners' way of saying 'fast' does pretty much sound exactly how the word is written. I've no idea why I pronounce it with what sounds like an 'r' in it. I was always under the impression that was correct, but now you mention it :confused:
 
[TW]Fox;13170432 said:
I was about to post how utterly daft you are for thinking that, until I had a thought about it myself. You are quite right, the 'commoners' way of saying 'fast' does pretty much sound exactly how the word is written. I've no idea why I pronounce it with what sounds like an 'r' in it. I was always under the impression that was correct, but now you mention it :confused:
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It might be that you use received pronunciation (sometimes known as Queens/Oxford English or what is thought of as a traditional BBC accent) although without hearing you speak I couldn't be sure and it was at one point thought to be a mark of education although it isn't so commonly thought now as diversity of accents is somewhat more celebrated. I'm not of the opinion that one is any better than the other although received pronunciation might be easier to understand when speaking, particularly to those who are not native English speakers.
 
[TW]Fox;13170432 said:
I was about to post how utterly daft you are for thinking that, until I had a thought about it myself. You are quite right, the 'commoners' way of saying 'fast' does pretty much sound exactly how the word is written. I've no idea why I pronounce it with what sounds like an 'r' in it. I was always under the impression that was correct, but now you mention it :confused:
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It's just a southern thing. To northerners it sounds posh, but considering anyone south of about Birmingham speaks that way (including cockneys) it's obviously just geographic.
 
[TW]Fox;13169029 said:
Surely thats simply correct prenounciation, not 'posh' :confused:
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Nope.

Assuming you meant pronunciation and wasn't aiming at some subtle joke, that is.

[edit]Damn slow work connection, everyone must be hammering it today :D I didn't see that you'd posted again.
 
I speak with a well educated accent.
My parents do not own a range rover, though they did.
I hate football, and love rugby.
I went to public school.

Does that make me posh? Hardly, we're not that affluent, though we do spend a lot of time abroad (owing to multi cultural background more than anything, and property), though my family history does have more grand heritage on the English side of the family, whereas my French side of the family, rather ironically were more peasant-folk really, or certainly agricultural.

I speak well because I'm well educated.
I prefer rugby because I find it more fun than football and never played football at school.
I went to public school because when we moved to the UK my parents wanted to give me the best chance they could although they couldn't really afford to pay for it.
They got rid of the range rover in Paris because there was no point in bringing it over to England.
 
p4radox said:
It's just a southern thing. To northerners it sounds posh, but considering anyone south of about Birmingham speaks that way (including cockneys) it's obviously just geographic.
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After being with a Geordie for 2 years, my English got corrupted, I tend to slip quite a lot and say "bath","fast", "graph" etc the northern way :o Gets worse when I drink.
 
Hatter The Mad said:
Speaking well and being well educated doesn't imply one another.

Why did they have a use for a Range Rover in Paris?? :D
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Pot holes and cobble stones! ;) No idea, it was just something they had. We also had a 5.3L V12 Jag (company car)... so go figure! This was 20 years ago mind.

I concede the point about education and speaking well, however I still feel that it *can* have an influence on how one speaks :)
 
laissez-faire said:
Don't be silly - it stops your neck getting sunburnt on the yacht!
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Hahaha!

I've met people this year who thought I was posh, purely based on how I spoke, which is wonderfully ironic as I spent the first 19 years of my life in South Africa, lol!

But having a British mum and spending most of my time with well-spoken Brits has got my accent to where it is. I did go to a private high-school though...

I even got called a posh **** by some 10 year old chavvy girls on a bus once :eek:
 
Freefaller said:
I concede the point about education and speaking well, however I still feel that it *can* have an influence on how one speaks :)
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It can because good education is found in public and grammar schools. The majority of people who attend public and grammar schools are brought up to speak well or even take diction lessons. This then rubs off on anyone who weren't specifically brought up to speak 'well'.

General education can't give you good pronunciation and well-spokenness.
 
Posh is a state of mind, some have it some don't. You don't need money or land or any other material posessions, good breeding does however help.
 
Well in a round about way, what we're saying is that it is dependent on the teaching establishment right? :p

Besides I don't really understand the distinction between what is posh and what isn't. I never got the whole aristocratic thing (probably my French thing coming out with the chopping of heads etc... ;)) I don't "get" that whole superiority thing either. We're all humans and we all bleed red.
 
Freefaller said:
Besides I don't really understand the distinction between what is posh and what isn't. I never got the whole aristocratic thing (probably my French thing coming out with the chopping of heads etc... ;)) I don't "get" that whole superiority thing either. We're all humans and we all bleed red.
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Some people are chav or thug scum, some people spend their life leeching the benefits system. Then there are the "rest" :)
 
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