Because 0.25% of the population signed a petition for something and MP's voted against it? What is it you actually take issue with?
Democracy, the Cameron way.
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Wouldnt work.
If you wanted some structural work doing in your house.
Would you ask a structural engineer who has the info. Or would you get the public to vote. Generally the population doesn't even have the information, let alone the understanding.
You vote a person in who you think will look at the info and do a decent job with said info. As well as generally has the same views if you. But also realise they have the information at hand and to some extent have to except their assesment off it.
Generally I don't think people actually understand how the voting system works and what politics does. As such vote incorrectly, then get upset about it.
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They knew the rules and the consequences of voting against the party line. They're free to start their own party or run as independents if they don't like it.
With direct digital democracy you would have a system in place where anything can be voted for, not just people, it would have different checks and balances and information available from basic to advanced, discussion forums etc, it would still be up to intelligent people to carry out the ideas and have the final say on an idea but it will always be based on what people want and whats best.
Are you suggesting this for every single decision that government currently make (by which I mean things which are voted on)
No exactly, think of more like a dynamic system where there's a lot more input from the people than the current system.
Why should that be required? And how will it ever be balanced? The only people who will get involved will be those who feel strongly about a subject, and it will allow the media even more power over decisions than they currently have.
What's wrong with voting for a representative who you have the ability to communicate your views to?
How, that just doesn't make any sense.
So votes let politicians now how we feel but it's up to them to decide. That's not direct democracy.
You want to teach the population every area of politics. So they can make an informed choice on everything.
Discussion forums, how's that going to do anything?
Are we all going to give up work so we can spend the time researching the thousands of choices government makes every year.
It sounds nice. But is totally unworkable and rather silly when you actually think about it.
Think of it like an extra arm of the government, the people, which just doesn't really exist in any meaningful way right now, at the moment we are supposed to be grateful we get to vote once for someone who may or may not do what we hope, even the bonus of getting to petition and protest now and then, while it's business as usual and same old.
But you either force everyone to vote or it's pointless.
You do get a lot of say now. Just very few can be bothered. If lots of people started telling their representative they wanted X then they might look into it. Or they might respond saying I think y should happen due to Z. As they hopefully have a better understanding and mire info on the subject.
People also seem to forgot your feelings aren't always a majority view. Even 10s of thousands of protesters doesn't mean majority view. How about the other 60million not protesting, what's their views.
People also seem to forgot your feelings aren't always a majority view. Even 10s of thousands of protesters doesn't mean majority view. How about the other 60million not protesting, what's their views.
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Sure we can say all sorts, that doesn't mean they're listening, little really changes or improves in the system, a lot of rubbish goes on regardless of what we think or even what's best.
Don't businesses see every single complaint as just a small percentage of a much larger number though? Works similar for everything, for every person that thinks a certain way there are many more who also do.
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Then speak louder through the existing channels, and if your MP doesn't do what you want then vote for someone else.
You can't extrapolate a minute percentage to be the majority though. Democracy is about everyone having a say, not about some voices being louder than others (without going into the voter power index thing). If you want to ask everybody, you need to ask EVERYBODY, not just those who are vocal about it.