Depression

I haven't read the thread, but a lot of people who think they have depression, usually just have the blues.

There is a marked difference.

Did anyone see that Horizon documentary about mental illness recently? The problem with mental illness is that it isn't defined down a line, like having a virus is.

With HPV for example, you either have it or you don't. With mental illnesses however, there's a large grey line that is all but impossible to bracket people on either side of.

So whilst I personally agree that a lot of people that think they're depressed are probably "just a bit mopey", depression hasn't been defined yet so we cannot define people's condition either.
 
By golly, there seems to be a lot of depressed people on this forum. I guess been on the forums makes you not depressed? Maybe this is the ultimate tablet for depressed people????

I never have been diagnosed with depression but I like to keep myself to myself and concern nobody else within my actions. Sometimes I say to myself 'nah' I ain't depressed but sometimes I have a bad day and go off on one. Trying to be strong about it though and make sure I don't take crap to people or give people the wrong impression about me.

I would never know how it feels as how does one tell if they are becoming depressed?
Now that's me in a nutshell,I had a serious bout of Depression just before leaving school,It came over like a wave of fear,whilst at a get together with some freinds,I made an excuse and had to leave, remained with me 24/7 for 3years it just ran its coarse then a further two years of rehab which i done all by myself,but doubt i would have either the patiance or the ambition to go through again at my age now,should it ever come back,however it does make you stronger I take pride in the fact that in general People that suffer from it are good thoughtfull folk who go out of there way for others and will generally put 100% effort into there work and life,
It does get better,depending how you work at it;)
 
Im not depressed but imo the best cure for it is exercise. Endorphines have to be the best mood lifters around. Also just do something you enjoy no matter how ridiculous it is.

I find if I dont do any excercise after a few days I feel very down, as I am now 2 weeks with this damn bug. :(
 
Im not depressed but imo the best cure for it is exercise. Endorphines have to be the best mood lifters around. Also just do something you enjoy no matter how ridiculous it is.

I find if I dont do any excercise after a few days I feel very down, as I am now 2 weeks with this damn bug. :(


I find this time of year not good at all (I think I may have seasonal affective disorder). I do find exercise helps a lot, so I'm trying to cycle to work a few times a week. :)
 
I don't mind winter as much as I used to but then I don't get down or even depressed anymore. Luckily or unfortunately, whatever you prefer, the winters aren't as severe as they were, say, fifteen years ago. Just think - its starts to get lighter towards the end of December, by late January you can actually notice the difference.
 
I cannot legitimately rationalise going into my GPs office and saying that.

Which is why I haven't, and why I won't.

I couldn't either. Some days, I felt that it was silly and they'd be angry at me for wasting their time. Some days, I didn't have the energy or motivation to make the appointment, let alone go.

That cost me a lot.

Depression is irrational, so it doesn't lend itself to rational analysis, least of all from the person directly involved.
 
This. I can't stand the darkness during the day. I dread winter coming each year.

Light therapy helps with that. Don't bother with the "SAD lamps" though - they're just lamps at several times the price. The issue is simply light. I use some kit intended for use as mobile lighting for places without it (e.g. an unconverted loft) and emergency lighting for power cuts. Basically a rechargeable battery pack, flourescent tubes and casing. Costs £20, does essentially the same thing as a "SAD lamp" costing £100 or more. So I bought two of those and some floor lamps and some uplighter floor lamps. My room is as bright as a summer day, with light sources spread out.
 
You can't enjoy anything when depressed. Stuff that you previously loved you can't be bothered to do any more.

That's a succinct summary.

Here's a metaphor that might help more people understand depression.

Imagine that you are walking in a narrow alleyway.

It's cold. Not spectacularly cold, just cold enough to be unpleasant.
It's raining. A drizzle. That apathetic rain that gets you thoroughly wet.
The alley floor is pitted, grey, dirty, slimy.
The walls on either side of you go up many storeys, blocking out all but a thin strip of sky.
The alley walls are pitted, grey, dirty, slimy.
They are also featureless. No doors, no windows, no change.
That strip of sky? It's grey. Always.
You walk.
The alley does not end. It goes right round the world.
You won't know when you get back to where you started, because everything is featureless.
The alley is effectively endless.
You walk.
You know that everywhere else is the same. This alley is all that there is, all that there ever will be, anywhere.
You walk.
It's just as cold as it ever was, and ever will be.
It drizzles, like it always has and always will.
You walk.
The walls are grey, slimy and featureless, as they always have been and always will be.
The ground is grey, slimy and featurelss, as it always has been and always will be.
You walk.

You can stop walking. Eventually, you will stop walking.

That's death.
 
Thats the problem so far with controversial diagnosis like BDP (borderline personality disorder) they dont like to be seen as missdiagnosing so dont want to actually give you it.

Because of that you end up waiting ages for a diagnosis :(

I think with regards to mental illness etc the stigma attached is getting less and thankfully more people are seeking help.
 
No it isn't.

If you've experienced something better before, there is something better elsewhere.

If you haven't, you don't know any better anyway.

I take it you've never been depressed? It was a very good analagy.

It was about feelings, that is how depression makes you feel. Most people would look at my life and be quite jealous. I've an amazing girlfriend, a house, a wedding coming up etc, I know I have a great life but the problem is that I don't feel that way.

Some days I am fine, the majority of the time I really would care if I got hit by a bus on the way to work just to see if I could feel something.

It is just very hard to explain to someone that has never experienced it. It is as if a great big grey fog cloud has come down on you and stiffled every feeling you have.
 
Did anyone see that Horizon documentary about mental illness recently? The problem with mental illness is that it isn't defined down a line, like having a virus is.

With HPV for example, you either have it or you don't. With mental illnesses however, there's a large grey line that is all but impossible to bracket people on either side of.

So whilst I personally agree that a lot of people that think they're depressed are probably "just a bit mopey", depression hasn't been defined yet so we cannot define people's condition either.

I agree that the classification of mood disorders is realistically a spectrum, however clinically, depression can actually be defined e.g. into groups such as mild, moderate, severe, persistent, bipolar, affective disorders, each of which at least 2 or 3 out of a defined list of features must be met in order to form a clinical diagnosis.

For anyone who is interested and would like to read more, this is the ICD-10 Classification of Mental and Behavioural Disorders (very long PDF)
http://www.who.int/classifications/icd/en/GRNBOOK.pdf

which defines the criteria I mention above. This is the official document which forms the guidelines for mental health diagnosis. Although having said that it is indeed a spectrum of illness, it would be very likely that a psychiatrist would also rely on his/her own clinical judgment and not completely strictly by this document.
 
It's great to see so many honest and serious replies to this thead.

I suffer from really bad anxiety and panic attacks. I've been ill for about 3-4 years now with a nasty bacterial illness that was misdiagnosed. I was so ill (and still am) that I spent a good 3-4 years spending 95% of my time at home and couldn't socialise at all.
I am now much better but I suffer from really nasty panic attacks, to the point where I can't even go into shops or socialise. I know it's because I was ill and wasn't able to socialise for so long and it just feels so strange going out now and trying to socialise and meet new people.
It's made it worse by not accepting it and/or seeing someone about it but I have booked an appointment to see my doc about it now.

I think you'll be surpised how many people actually suffer from mental illness and I am sure that the figures will only increase with the about of stress, etc.
 
Do I have depression, I'll put it this way, a Prozac a day keeps the bad thoughts at bay. If I didn't have it I would most likely do harm to myself or others, I'm an angry person:mad::D.
 
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I read a statistic recently which said that exercise was as effective as prescription drugs...

Having had a gf who for the year before last had been through rather serious depression [diagnosed by specialists, though imo they were questionable] and other things, tbh I'd agree. If you're 'sad', being told you're 'sad' and being put on pricey drugs ain't really gonna help...beyond of course artificial reduction of whaterver-you're-feeling, no matter if it's good or bad emotion.

Just my thoughts from very close experience :)

I know I'm simplifying a tiny bit here but it's a bit late! If you're of course thinking you might have depression etc you should talk to friends & family then seek medical advice as appropriate.
 
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