Depression

Light therapy helps with that. Don't bother with the "SAD lamps" though - they're just lamps at several times the price. The issue is simply light. I use some kit intended for use as mobile lighting for places without it (e.g. an unconverted loft) and emergency lighting for power cuts. Basically a rechargeable battery pack, flourescent tubes and casing. Costs £20, does essentially the same thing as a "SAD lamp" costing £100 or more. So I bought two of those and some floor lamps and some uplighter floor lamps. My room is as bright as a summer day, with light sources spread out.

Not entirely sure that's the case, as far as I know SAD lights have a broader spectrum then normal flourescent lighting. However if this helps then fair play.

I certainly find my dawn simulator alarm clock works a treat.
 
used to have panic attacks when i was at college/uni think it was a combination of stress as well though. I dont really handle stress well so i am always tring to keep myself chilled-calm, things like meditation helped.
 
Hi,

Just wondering if anyone here has ever been diagnosed with depression?

If so, what was your life like before and after treatment and what was it that finally made you go see a doctor about it?

Not after medical advice here just interested in peoples personal experiences :)

I use to lie face down on the floor for 5 days at a time without food and very little water. I'm better now though :)

Exercise and flushing all my meds down the toilet sorted me right out. All though the meds were initially helpful at getting me off the floor :D
 
I haven't read the thread, but a lot of people who think they have depression, usually just have the blues.

There is a marked difference.

Bit of a silly comment, depression can be a number of thing's.

I've never been 'diagnosed' with depression, but I've certainly been depressed to the extent of self harming.

And it wasn't exactly attention seeking as I didn't go around showing it off.
 
People who have never been depressed dont understand what it actually means beyond "feeling down" unless they've had experience with sufferers of chronic depression.

Depression isn't something that happens overnight, its not something you wake up with one day and think "oh, I'm depressed" it literally creeps into you over a long period of time and slowly takes charge of everything.

Its not a normal change of mood that everyone in the world feels from time to time, its a complete change of out look on life. Its like a disease that eats away at your pattern of thinking and choice making. You dont sit down and think, right, I'm going to be miserable and not do anything because I feel sorry for myself. Its not like that.

Its not a matter of just "doing things you enjoy" because you dont enjoy anything. For me it was like I had systematically cut-off all reason for doing anything to the point of feeling like a walking corpse. It was a complete self-destruction that lead to some really horrible experiences, yet all the while, I felt as if I was in complete control of myself and my thoughts, but I just couldn't see the blazing black hole that was inside me making me feel like a rotted zombie.

The best way I can describe deep depression is like this:

Imagine a prisoner, someone being kept indoors and told to take medication that numbs them, destroys their emotional rationality, their desires and all sense of self worth and confidence.

As time goes on he rots, becomes frustrated, thoughts are filled with death and he finds it increasingly harder to find reason to breath. The slightest thing can knock him down as if the weight of the world is on his shoulders.

Now consider that this person is the jailer himself and that he completely 100% believes that this medication is good for him, so he keeps taking it, even though its destroying him.


Fortunately things can only go up from there once you realise that the 'medication' (the change in your personality) is actually a freaking disease and that other people are feeling exactly the same. I struggled about going to the GP for weeks after I realised that I was in a seriously bad way. In the end I felt as if I had reached the ends of the world in terms of emotional rape so I had nothing to lose and just made myself goto the doctors early one morning. I was swetting, panicking and looking at the exit door as if it were a fire escape... but I done it.

That was 4 years ago, and it was the best decision I've ever made. It really has been uphill since. So if anyone is still wondering about going to the GP about their feelings then all I can say is, for the love of God go now, today, talk to them. There are SO many sufferers from depression and its a very common disease and doctors see this all the time. They're not going to sit there and judge you, they're there to put things right. You just need to take that first step and you'll feel as if the worlds weight is removed from your shoulders.
 
People who have never been depressed dont understand what it actually means beyond "feeling down" unless they've had experience with sufferers of chronic depression.

Depression isn't something that happens overnight, its not something you wake up with one day and think "oh, I'm depressed" it literally creeps into you over a long period of time and slowly takes charge of everything.

Its not a normal change of mood that everyone in the world feels from time to time, its a complete change of out look on life. Its like a disease that eats away at your pattern of thinking and choice making. You dont sit down and think, right, I'm going to be miserable and not do anything because I feel sorry for myself. Its not like that.

Its not a matter of just "doing things you enjoy" because you dont enjoy anything. For me it was like I had systematically cut-off all reason for doing anything to the point of feeling like a walking corpse. It was a complete self-destruction that lead to some really horrible experiences, yet all the while, I felt as if I was in complete control of myself and my thoughts, but I just couldn't see the blazing black hole that was inside me making me feel like a rotted zombie.

The best way I can describe deep depression is like this:

Imagine a prisoner, someone being kept indoors and told to take medication that numbs them, destroys their emotional rationality, their desires and all sense of self worth and confidence.

As time goes on he rots, becomes frustrated, thoughts are filled with death and he finds it increasingly harder to find reason to breath. The slightest thing can knock him down as if the weight of the world is on his shoulders.

Now consider that this person is the jailer himself and that he completely 100% believes that this medication is good for him, so he keeps taking it, even though its destroying him.


Fortunately things can only go up from there once you realise that the 'medication' (the change in your personality) is actually a freaking disease and that other people are feeling exactly the same. I struggled about going to the GP for weeks after I realised that I was in a seriously bad way. In the end I felt as if I had reached the ends of the world in terms of emotional rape so I had nothing to lose and just made myself goto the doctors early one morning. I was swetting, panicking and looking at the exit door as if it were a fire escape... but I done it.

That was 4 years ago, and it was the best decision I've ever made. It really has been uphill since. So if anyone is still wondering about going to the GP about their feelings then all I can say is, for the love of God go now, today, talk to them. There are SO many sufferers from depression and its a very common disease and doctors see this all the time. They're not going to sit there and judge you, they're there to put things right. You just need to take that first step and you'll feel as if the worlds weight is removed from your shoulders.
That about sums it up for me,Very precise post .. glad your doing Ok eggyoke:)
 
Glad you're coping Eggyoke, that is a really heart rending post.

Still, I'm not at the stage where I feel I can go to the doctors about it.
 
People who have never been depressed dont understand what it actually means beyond "feeling down" unless they've had experience with sufferers of chronic depression.

Depression isn't something that happens overnight, its not something you wake up with one day and think "oh, I'm depressed" it literally creeps into you over a long period of time and slowly takes charge of everything.

Its not a normal change of mood that everyone in the world feels from time to time, its a complete change of out look on life. Its like a disease that eats away at your pattern of thinking and choice making. You dont sit down and think, right, I'm going to be miserable and not do anything because I feel sorry for myself. Its not like that.

Its not a matter of just "doing things you enjoy" because you dont enjoy anything. For me it was like I had systematically cut-off all reason for doing anything to the point of feeling like a walking corpse. It was a complete self-destruction that lead to some really horrible experiences, yet all the while, I felt as if I was in complete control of myself and my thoughts, but I just couldn't see the blazing black hole that was inside me making me feel like a rotted zombie.

The best way I can describe deep depression is like this:

Imagine a prisoner, someone being kept indoors and told to take medication that numbs them, destroys their emotional rationality, their desires and all sense of self worth and confidence.

As time goes on he rots, becomes frustrated, thoughts are filled with death and he finds it increasingly harder to find reason to breath. The slightest thing can knock him down as if the weight of the world is on his shoulders.

Now consider that this person is the jailer himself and that he completely 100% believes that this medication is good for him, so he keeps taking it, even though its destroying him.


Fortunately things can only go up from there once you realise that the 'medication' (the change in your personality) is actually a freaking disease and that other people are feeling exactly the same. I struggled about going to the GP for weeks after I realised that I was in a seriously bad way. In the end I felt as if I had reached the ends of the world in terms of emotional rape so I had nothing to lose and just made myself goto the doctors early one morning. I was swetting, panicking and looking at the exit door as if it were a fire escape... but I done it.

That was 4 years ago, and it was the best decision I've ever made. It really has been uphill since. So if anyone is still wondering about going to the GP about their feelings then all I can say is, for the love of God go now, today, talk to them. There are SO many sufferers from depression and its a very common disease and doctors see this all the time. They're not going to sit there and judge you, they're there to put things right. You just need to take that first step and you'll feel as if the worlds weight is removed from your shoulders.


Spot on. Meds ultimate hold you back both mentally and physically.
 
I feel down at the moment (I think calling it "the blues" as above is about spot on) but I wouldn't say I'm severely depressed. One of my friends gets SAD, he's very depressed at the moment with all the grey weather - hardly ever comes out the house any more!

My cure for a bout of the blues is to play music, gets a lot out your system. :)
 
For me being severely depressed 10 years ago has enriched my life no end. Nothing really gets to me anymore and its made me incredibly strong - both mentally and physically.
 
Interestingly, I can't actually remember now what it feels like to be severely depressed. I just know it was awful.

Maybe were not supposed too i cant remember crawling round the floor crying for my parents to call a doctor as i had enough and couldn't cope another day of it,I went the next day was given mild sleeping tablets .. it was 1979 :D
Did i tell ya i am aright now;)
 
No it isn't.

If you've experienced something better before, there is something better elsewhere.

If you haven't, you don't know any better anyway.

I was attempting to use metaphor to convey what being depressed feels like. The experience of it, which is obviously subjective.

You are applying intellect and reasoning to it, a rational response.

That doesn't work. Depression is not rational. It is not intellectual. The person subject to it cannot stand outside it and think about it in the way you are doing. They can't even do so as much as a person can normally apply reasoning to their own mind, because depression strongly affects their mind. Including their memory of prior better times, if there were any.
 
Not entirely sure that's the case, as far as I know SAD lights have a broader spectrum then normal flourescent lighting. However if this helps then fair play.

I certainly find my dawn simulator alarm clock works a treat.

You can put a broad-spectrum flourescent tube in any lamp that uses flourescent tubes. You can also get daylight-imitating flourescent tubes, if you find that works better. Some say that the higher visible light frequencies are what matter for treating SAD...and you can get flourescent tubes for that too.

This, for example, is a specialist SAD treatment lamp:

http://www.sad.co.uk/p/1127//SAD-Light-Apollo-Golite-M2-SAD-Light.htm

It is an array of blue LEDs. It costs £200. An array of blue LEDs does not cost anywhere near £200.

If you look in detail at SAD lamps, you'll find that many are flourescent tubes with a cover, especially under £150.

If you want broad spectrum bright light, you can buy a portable lamp that takes fluorescent tubes and some broad spectrum tubes. 18W 2ft is the norm - anything bigger than that isn't so portable. Total cost, maybe £40 for the lamp and two tubes. Or you can buy a portable lamp that takes fluorescent tubes and is fitted with two 18W 2ft broad-spectrum tubes and is sold as a "SAD lamp" and pay a lot more.

I've seen the lamps I bought for £20 each (with 2 tubes already fitted in each) resold as SAD lamps at £75 each.

SAD lamps generally output 10000 lux at a distance of less than a foot. They also rarely state the distance (or even that the distance matters) and I suspect they use lux deliberately because light sources are almost always rated in lumens and it's not trivial to convert between the two. The size and shape of the source matters. The reflectivity of the material behind the tube matters. The shape of the cover matters. Too many things matter. The only way to test is with a light meter. I'm using a rule of thumb instead - is it as bright at my head as it is standing outdoors on a spring morning with clear skies? With my four 2ft 18W tubes and my five 20W flourescent bulbs, I think it is.

UV is the main thing to watch out for - you really don't want any in a light source you're using for SAD treatment. You can, unsurprisingly, buy fluorescent tubes that don't emit any. Not that I put my eyes 6 inches from a light source anyway, as you have to to get 10,000 lux from a "cheap" (~£100) SAD lamp.
 
I've suffered since i was 15 i am know near 40 medicines did not help me i all ways felt that they turned me into a zombie. Life has its ups and downs there is loads of days i wish it would just end and there is days i think i am stronger than this i always feel its a personal battle that i must fight myself. I sort help many years ago to be confronted with a doctor who asked the same half a dozen questions about my relationship with my wife, family and childhood. It did not help especially when i looked around his office at the hundreds of case files that where lying around.

Ive lost months if not years of my life feeling like this and not knowing the answer. In all truth Ive only once felt true happiness in this time, it was not the birth of my son or my marriage to my ever loving wife but a brief moment sat on a beach looking out to sea with my dog. How i wish every day could be like that. I don't keep friends and the ones i have i drive away. Life now feels numb and devoid of any sole i just feel like I'm getting dumber and dumber with fading memory's people i work with tell me more about about my past than i can remember. I have a bike, running machine and other means of exercises but its all to no avail because i do not not have the want to use them. i don't drink or smoke never done drugs but i go through life as if I'm looking at it through a transparent brick wall.

This is my depression

I am not looking for sympathy i just one to give people a in-site of what the pain is like through the eyes of a suffer .

I have learnt to cope in my own way.
 
Superb post by eggyoke, yes I've been depressed, self harmed, but I've come through it, have a poorly paid but good job, good health, I consider myself very fortunate. It so nearly went the other way.
 
Ive just recently been diagnosed with anxiety and depression after about 4 years of my life(i'm currently 19), thinking it would go away but low moods and negative thinking started getting worse and worse for me, always thought it was in my head and doctor would laugh if i went to get checked out, ive always been shy for as long as i can remember but i think it may be linked in a way to my anxiety. Since i got diagnosed with my growth disorder i always found it hard to get my head around how i would be limited to how tall i would grow to, i think this always stuck in my head and lead to a lot of worrying probably will never know though.

Realized i had to go see GP when friends started slowly drifting away and i got less social due to not feeling up to doing anything i enjoyed i needed to get seen to. Decided to opt against medication as its my problem and id rather try and get it under control on my own means than possibly becoming a zombie due to meds. Currently see a counselor every few weeks and got booklets to help.

Not really saw a big difference so far yet as its only early days but im less paranoid when out than i used to be, used to avoid leaving the house other than going to the shop or college but now i can leave the house and do as i please without feeling like its a big effort. The low moods still come quite frequently and the thinking patterns due to the anxiety also come with the low moods which can pin me down for hours or days. Its probably the most intense feelings ive ever had to go through and probably the scariest as i feel i change completely in these moods and just don't feel myself.

The most influential thing to help is music for me weirdly, it always seems to be able to help me get my mind off thinking.

Not looking for any sympathy just wanted to give my 2 cents, never realised as many people go through similar problems.
 
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