Yeah he was deliberately not cooperating, not uncommon I would have thought especially with someone under the influence of drugs. He probably partially asphyxiated himself from using his reduced lung capacity to keep yelling. It might sound unlikely but he wasn't cold sober and thinking rationally if he was on drugs.
Derek Chauvin murder trial (Police officer who arrested George Floyd)
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Yeah he was deliberately not cooperating, not uncommon I would have thought especially with someone under the influence of drugs. He probably partially asphyxiated himself from using his reduced lung capacity to keep yelling. It might sound unlikely but he wasn't cold sober and thinking rationally if he was on drugs.
Yep that's the only reason she got the job seen more personality on a wet lettuce.
Yeah too right mate the same people that worship saint Floyd want to rip Churchills statue down and flinch in horror when they see a Union Jack.
thenewoc, post: 34736995, member: 129820" didn't pass out before he was placed on the ground!
Most people don't usualy pass out unless they are being strangled.
He wasn't strangled.
Get your facts right.
thenewoc, post: 34736995, member: 129820" didn't pass out before he was placed on the ground!
Most people don't usualy pass out unless they are being strangled.
Most people couldn't shout out I can't breathe if they couldn't breathe.
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Or better yet, GF's fate was sealed the moment he tried to buy cigs with a fake $20 note, or when he consumed fentanyl, or methamphetamine, or resisted arrest multiple times. It takes 2 to tango!
Was DC negligent, yes certainly for the last 2 minutes of the whole incident, was it unreasonable force, not at all. He could have/possibly should have just tasered him from the start. Probably would have had the same result on his frail body either way. But we will never know, all we have is what happened, and with that we have so much doubt around the whole incident that who the Jury came to a quilty conclusion on all 3 counts is beyond me and many other people. Unless of course they were influenced in some way.
Like perhaps by the politicians, media, threat of riot and/or violence. I honestly expect the appeal to be denied and DC sentence dto the max 70 years, not because he deserves it, far from it, but because anything less will just have more riots and politicians pandering to the mob.
Sounds like a lovely place to live where mob rule wins.
I've just seen one of the toxicology reports along with the autopsy. I won't post out of respect. I find it very strange that this report was produced without doing confirmations on the compounds that were screened positive which number 3.
For such a high profile case I would have thought confirmatory testing would be done as standard.
Anyhow no idea what will happen. I haven't made my mind up and I'm starting to care less and less whats going on in this world atm, probably a healthy choice.
For such a high profile case I would have thought confirmatory testing would be done as standard.
Anyhow no idea what will happen. I haven't made my mind up and I'm starting to care less and less whats going on in this world atm, probably a healthy choice.
You are, of course, ignoring the point made. But you succeeded in making doing so sound good. You've got at least one of the key skills for being a good politician.
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Ever heard of the thin skull rule?
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What have the drugs got to do with it? He knelt on him for over 9.5 minutes. Even after he was not responsive and stopped breathing. What about that don't you understand? That is what got the guilty verdict and it was under the law the correct verdict. He contributed to his death, that is guilty under what he was charged with.
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What point? He was breathing at a rate that was normal and not what someone overdosing would do. Problem was he couldn't breathe properly with someone kneeling on him.
Surely the drugs have quite a lot to do with it. Wasn’t it already proved in the trial that there was no artery damage to the neck? That was my point earlier, if someone else other than George was in that situation that would likely have survived. It was a combination of factors.
That's an excellent example of racism and circular "logic" to rationalise it.
The only reason Chauvin was even tried, let alone convicted, was because he's "white" and Floyd was "black". That's why hardly anyone gives a damn about the majority of people who die during arrest or in custody in the USA - they're only whites so their lives don't matter. The systematic racism is exactly the opposite way around to the way the person you quoted claimed.
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Someone said (paraphrasing)
"No one said Floyd was a modern day saint"
So my point is, someone is wrong...
Yet these murals depict him.as a modern day saint.
The drugs could have reduced his capacity to withstand being detained robustly in the manner he was.
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His cardiovascular system was a shambles already, he was going to die soon regardless of what happened, with upto 90% constriction on his arteries, even a jump scare could have caused a heart attack.
The drugs and physical effort from resisting were just another piece in the puzzle that killed him.
The drugs and physical effort from resisting were just another piece in the puzzle that killed him.
The point that he was saying he couldn't breathe before then. An inconvenient fact you ignore with great determination because it's inconvenient.
There are two possibilities:
1) He was telling the truth when he said he couldn't breathe while sitting down and while standing up, before he was restrained.
2) He was lying when he said he couldn't breathe before he was restrained.
Either possibility is inconvenient for your simplistic position so you simply ignore that it happened at all.
He'd said the same thing when being arrested before. Not when being restrained before. When being arrested before. With nobody restraining him.
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You yell when you breathe out, breathing out wasn't his problem, breathing in was. I wonder if you'd yell if you couldn't breathe and someone kept kneeling on you. Or would you just lie there and die in silence?
Here you I'll quote it for you as well.
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