I answered his question he would also be dead if I did what the coppers did, unless you are totally blind you can see the man get murdered, the footage is there for all to see, cause of death asphyxia was it not.
Derek Chauvin murder trial (Police officer who arrested George Floyd)
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I answered his question he would also be dead if I did what the coppers did, unless you are totally blind you can see the man get murdered, the footage is there for all to see, cause of death asphyxia was it not.
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We know he stopped breathing that's a given when someone is dead. The question the jury needs to answer is. Did he die as a direct result of the officers actions or was it a combination of multiple things.
Like the copious amount of hard drugs in his system, along with an already patchy medical history including heart disease.
Like the copious amount of hard drugs in his system, along with an already patchy medical history including heart disease.
No.
You've already decided to prejudge the case and dismiss any and all evidence that doesn't fit your predetermined conclusion. You also failed to answer the question you claimed to have answered. You didn't even try to answer it.
Not sure how you determine 'direct' but even if he was under the influence/had a condition, kneeling on his neck for 8 minutes and not checking if he's breathing. That's murder for me.
They're an extreme racist. Really, really extreme racist. Is that a form of madness? Arguably so - it's irrational and delusional and it results in them ranting in a deranged way. I thought they'd been banned after their last string of libellous hate-driven rantings, but it looks like they were just suspended.
EDIT: All the evidence was deleted - both their posts and replies to them. So it's magically like it never happened.
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So if you attacked a 90 year old and they died, you could claim innocence because they were frail and might have died anyway?
At the very least it's fair to say that the officers actions contributed to his death, whatever the motivation it was excessive force and resulted in a death.
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It wasn’t an attack though was it
Ok, if you apprehended a 90 year old you thought was using a fake £20 and they died whilst using what would generally be considered excessive force, it's ok because they might have died anyway?
Better?
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Not up to you or I to decide, it's up to the Jury.
Being old and frail isn't something self inflicted though is it, bad comparison to make. Pumping yourself full of drugs though well that is on you.
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Swap 'excessive force' for an approved restraint technique and you might be onto something.
Even that's debatable. It could be argued that a known history of violent crime is relevant to how the police handle a person. If you know that the person you're dealing with has committed armed robbery and is apparently (by their own statements) willing to shoot people, that is relevant to how you handle them. It could also be argued that since this is a political trial and character is being used by one side it should be allowed for the other side too.
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People seem to forget that the officer in question has been in the force for nearly 20 years, it wouldn't have been his first time detaining someone in the same way.
Ok, so he's both on the cusp of death because of his drug use and an unstoppable behemoth that requires extreme force to detain.
Schrodinger's detainee.
Of course not. Probably why he had seven previous complaints of brutality prior to this happening.
He wasn't punished for any of those, which is one of the main reasons for the protests in the US.
The US has legal guidance for whether death by heart attack triggered by trauma can be classed as murder.
In short, it very much can. It matters not that he may have died from existing health conditions, simply that the illegal trauma triggered the death.
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Even more reason to get him off the streets then if he is often abusing people.
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Has this 90yo necked enough drugs to kill a rhino?
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Well, he 'couldn't breath' yet at the same time was capable of shouting.
"under the influence" - He had a lethal amount of fentanyl in his system, let's not sugar coat it. And it is possible to put your knee on someone's neck and not kill them.
Phillipines, maybe? What they said might well be true there at the moment.
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