Derren Brown: Apocolypse

He was being looked after in a hospital, it's entirely plausible that he would've been shaved while being cared for. This point was made earlier in the thread. Alternatively, it might just not have occurred to him, I'm sure he had plenty of more important things on his mind.

So much stuff on his mind.. that he rolled over and knocked out to sleep on the first night in this 'hell on earth zombie apocalypse'. I can't believe people bought into it, it was so obviously blatantly fake nonsense.
 
Right, they'll shave him but not remove the mouldy sandwhich :p?

Heh, fair point, must read properly. :p He wouldn't have had any reason to think about it though, he wasn't looking for inconsistencies like you guys are. He would've had much more important things on his mind.

Steven not being able to close the ambulance door was pretty lame too, almost felt thrown in for drama.

I see what you mean but I thought completely the opposite, it looked really clunky, slow and unintended, especially as the ambulance guy had to get out and help. Can't remember ever seeing anything like it in fiction, you know, a main protagonist who can't even close a bloody door. :p It may well have been in the script though to add drama as you say, but I don't see why that would mean Steven is a stooge.

Where he sees the first zombie through the glass, you can obviously see something was wrong, why keep knocking? Just felt like a scripted scene to create that chase which led to them getting in the ambulance.

It was Leona knocking, Steven actually tried to pull her away. And it was scripted to an extent, Leona made sure Steven did what he was supposed to do and lead him to that chase purposefully. I don't really think you can use anything he did as proof that it's fake though, no one can possibly know how someone would act in that situation, all we've ever seen is Hollywood. And obviously, not everyone is going to act in the same way.

So much stuff on his mind.. that he rolled over and knocked out to sleep on the first night in this 'hell on earth zombie apocalypse'. I can't believe people bought into it, it was so obviously blatantly fake nonsense.

Now you're making up reasons why it's fake? He didn't go back to sleep after waking up in the hospital, he looked around, found Leona and it went from there.

Care to flesh out your theory any more?
 
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Now you're making up reasons why it's fake? He didn't go back to sleep after waking up in the hospital, he looked around, found Leona and it went from there.

Care to flesh out your theory any more?

That was in the daytime. What happened on the first night, correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he just roll over and go to sleep? Add that to the fact he made absolutely no attempt to arm himself at any stage plus the pathetic over the top acting by the 'actors' in particular the guy on the helicopter, PLUS the main guy just drops to sleep on command... it's not me who needs to flesh anything out.

Before this I thought Derren Brown was very good in what he did but I think this last series has backfired, he has exposed himself as a fraud.
 
If it was written, Steven is worst hero I've ever seen on screen. He didn't have hardly any character progression. The little girl was still in charge by the end of it for goodness sake. My GCSE media piece had better bloody character progression!

If I were faking it, I would have made Steven's character a lot more fleshed out. Perhaps they should've got the paramedic guy to play Steven, he was a lot better an actor to begin with.

Perhaps they purposely made him character poor as sort of double bluff?
 
Nope, he was selected out of the many candidates as he was someone who wouldn't walk off grass whilst holding a mobile phone
 
That was in the daytime. What happened on the first night, correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he just roll over and go to sleep? Add that to the fact he made absolutely no attempt to arm himself at any stage plus the pathetic over the top acting by the 'actors' in particular the guy on the helicopter, PLUS the main guy just drops to sleep on command... it's not me who needs to flesh anything out.

He went to sleep at night, so it must be fake? He didn't arm himself, so it must be fake? Actors acted, so it must be fake? Steven being hypnotised quickly isn't proof it's fake either, read the thread.

And you do need to flesh it out, no one has yet been able to answer pretty simple questions about their theories, such as why Steven would lie to the nation and his family. Unless you believe his family are in on it too, in which case, why would they lie? Your arguments really aren't any more strong than "I've seen a lot of photoshops in my time and can tell it's fake from the pixels".

Before this I thought Derren Brown was very good in what he did but I think this last series has backfired, he has exposed himself as a fraud.

What about Hero at 30,000 feet, it was pretty similar?

Do the people that believe this, also believe Derren can really predict the lottery?

Of course not, I don't think there were many of his fans who weren't disappointed by that and I'm pretty sure he said himself that it's the thing in his career he most regrets doing but I can't seem to find it right now. It's irrelevant to this though. Maradona scored a goal by handball but that doesn't mean all of his goals were a result of cheating.

He could have walked off the grass. MOBILE phone!

True, unlikely though, why would he pick it up off the tree stump and then go wandering off before answering the call? It was put where it was for a reason. Even if he did go wandering off with it for some bizarre reason, and he did fall and hit his head, how do you know there wasn't some clause when he signed up to this that Channel 4 / Derren Brown can't be held liable if he gets injured? People got injured in Total Wipeout but that didn't mean the people on it were stooges.

I really wish people would leave behind the idea that it's fake because of what Steven did/didn't do. He's a person whom you've never met before, you have absolutely no idea how he or anyone else would act and not everyone would react in the same way. It proves absolutely nothing.
 
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was it not a table just off the road the phone was sitting on not a tree stump? maybe some people didnt pay as much attention as they thought :p, maybe also they didnt expect him to fall.
 
I didn't pay a great deal of attention to what the phone was sitting on really, I saw tree stump above and assumed it was correct :p
 
Do the people that believe this, also believe Derren can really predict the lottery?
I heard derren brown is a terrorist and mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks on the united stats of america.
The FBI arrested him but derren brown told them to sleep and then made sure they forgot about it.
He then connected to the internet and told all computers to sleep and selectively erased any information linking him to the attacks.

He even hypnotised osama bin laden and convinced him this was the apocolypse and everyone were zombies.
obviously we know this succeeded as osama was later caught in a house with high walls which had a self sufficient garden, he even had enough wives to begin repopulating the earth.
 
For the people who believe it was fake, remember that arknor thinks the same as you. That should make you question it.
 
For the people who believe it was fake, remember that arknor thinks the same as you. That should make you question it.
logic
reasoning
what medical science knows about hypnosis

all suggest its bull poop


Ch4 and derren brown says its real...

must be legit
 
And you do need to flesh it out, no one has yet been able to answer pretty simple questions about their theories, such as why Steven would lie to the nation and his family. Unless you believe his family are in on it too, in which case, why would they lie?

A great big pile of cash.
 
logic
reasoning
what medical science knows about hypnosis

all suggest its bull poop


Ch4 and derren brown says its real...

must be legit

Clearly, you don't know much about logic, reasoning or hypnosis.

A great big pile of cash.

After they've received the cash, why would they keep quiet? Surely they could make even more if they sold their story to the tabloids? It's a story that a lot of people would want to see, as made obvious by this thread.

It's not the first time Derren has done something like this, there was Hero at 30,000 feet and the time when he made the guy believe he was in a zombie computer game (I'm pretty sure he put that guy to sleep almost instantly as well). Why haven't they sold their stories to the tabloids?
 
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I dunno, maybe Derren Brown made him sign some kind of legally binding document that would make him think twice about breaking the contract. Or maybe he is just a DB groupie, willing to go along with absolutely anything DB says.
 
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