Description of Afterlife?

synaptik · 12 Oct 2012 at 21:40

Not so surprisingly you are aware of very little.

ethan · 12 Oct 2012 at 21:44

dont bother with quackery such as that, and it is never covered by any Science course. Its pretty much the same thing as Creationists trying to teach their theories on creationism as an alternative for Evolution.

The philosophy of science is concerned with the assumptions, foundations, methods, and implications of science. It is also concerned with the use and merit of science and sometimes overlaps metaphysics and epistemology by exploring whether scientific results are actually a study of truth. In addition to these central problems of science as a whole, many philosophers of science also consider problems that apply to particular sciences (e.g. philosophy of biology or philosophy of physics). Some philosophers of science also use contemporary results in science to reach conclusions about philosophy.

Anything but ********.

Castiel · 12 Oct 2012 at 21:45

bhavv said:
? Yes I can. I see trees outside my window, they are made of what we call wood.

Trees are not made of wood, they are wood.

ethan · 12 Oct 2012 at 21:46

Castiel said:
Trees are not made of wood, they are wood.

Lol

bhavv · 12 Oct 2012 at 21:52

synaptik said:
Not so surprisingly you are aware of very little.

I'm fully aware of things that are real and observable. I dont buy into pseudoscience / mythology / philosophic beliefs that fall outside of being testable by the scientific method as having any truth to them, such as the afterlife. There is no knowledge behind mythology.

Castiel said:
Trees are not made of wood, they are wood.

T_T

I suppose then that humans are nothing but skin with nothing else inside them, since all you can see is skin and anything else is an illusion of the mind. Oh wow, now I'm a philosopher too!

ptneps · 12 Oct 2012 at 22:19

bhavv said:
I'm fully aware of things that are real and observable. I dont buy into pseudoscience / mythology / philosophic beliefs that fall outside of being testable by the scientific method as having any truth to them, such as the afterlife. There is no knowledge behind mythology.

T_T

I suppose then that humans are nothing but skin with nothing else inside them, since all you can see is skin and anything else is an illusion of the mind. Oh wow, now I'm a philosopher too!

Castiel · 12 Oct 2012 at 22:21

bhavv said:
T_T

I suppose then that humans are nothing but skin with nothing else inside them, since all you can see is skin and anything else is an illusion of the mind. Oh wow, now I'm a philosopher too!

Haha, alternatively you will now accept that Trees are not made of wood (it is wood), but as NASA points out, Trees (and therefore wood) are made of Air.

Here is an experiment you can try yourself to demonstrate that Trees are in fact made from Air:

http://atmospheres.gsfc.nasa.gov/iglo/images_toolkit/Trees_Are_Made_From_Air.pdf

bhavv · 12 Oct 2012 at 22:23

No, they not made of wood ... They are wood, and humans gather wood from trees /doh.

ptneps · 12 Oct 2012 at 22:25

I'd just like to congratulate the poster on page 1 who described exactly how this thread would pan out.

ethan · 12 Oct 2012 at 22:28

I'm fully aware of things that are real and observable. I dont buy into pseudoscience / mythology / philosophic beliefs that fall outside of being testable by the scientific method as having any truth to them, such as the afterlife.

The NDE's are testable? In fact there are a number of investigations that are ongoing at the moment (if you ever bothered to look).

Castiel · 12 Oct 2012 at 22:28

bhavv said:
No, they not made of wood ... They are wood, and humans gather wood from trees /doh.

Humans gather wood from Forests (or the Latin foresta or Open Wood)......

bhavv · 12 Oct 2012 at 22:31

ethan said:
The NDE's are testable? In fact there are a number of investigations that are ongoing at the moment (if you ever bothered to look).

Whether or not they are testable, NDEs are not evidence of what happens to human consciousness after brain death, as the brain is still alive and functioning during the NDE causing dream states arising from delirium.

Delirium is a natural response of the human to severe physical pain / damage, and I see no evidence to suggest that an NDE is anything more than that. I've read plenty on this topic, and all it does is reinforce the fact of delirium, rather than provide evidence for an afterlife.

Castiel said:
Humans gather wood from Forests......

Yea .. but no .... but yea ... but NO!

You can gather wood from a single isolated tree, and that is not a forest

m4rk84 · 12 Oct 2012 at 22:37

I think the chance of there being an afterlife is close to the 0/100 sort of area, I'm not willing to go the whole hog and say that though so I would probably say it's more like 1/100 chance of there being some form of afterlife.

bhavv · 12 Oct 2012 at 22:40

Saying that there is 1/100 chance is way too generous, it probably more like 1/12 quadrillion

Castiel · 12 Oct 2012 at 22:41

bhavv said:
You can gather wood from a single isolated tree, and that is not a forest

Yet you are harvesting a tree...and the tree is wood prior to harvesting. Paper is made from wood...that same paper is also made from trees, for example....you can't make a tree from a wooden table, but you can make a wooden table from a tree.....

bhavv · 12 Oct 2012 at 22:44

Now youre just being pedantic.

Morbius · 12 Oct 2012 at 22:46

bhavv said:
Saying that there is 1/100 chance is way too generous, it probably more like 1/12 quadrillion

I don't see that there's any possible way of determining what the probability is.

Castiel · 12 Oct 2012 at 22:46

bhavv said:
Now youre just being pedantic.

Haha, just illustrating a point about perception Bhavv.

oldbag · 12 Oct 2012 at 22:47

Humanity is just an experiment by some higher power, a simulation which one day will be powered off once the required results have been gathered. However if it were more than an experiment and there was a god being, why did they never interfere in human atrocities (ww2, etc) and stop people from being mass murdered by a dictator (i.e, jews, by Hitler)?

bhavv · 12 Oct 2012 at 22:48

Morbius said:
I don't see that there's any possible way of determining what the probability is.

Nope, its just baseless opinion, like the whole idea of an afterlife in the first place.

oldbag said:
Humanity is just an experiment by some higher power, a simulation which one day will be powered off once the required results have been gathered. However if it were more than an experiment and there was a god being, why did they never interfere in human atrocities (ww2, etc) and stop people from being mass murdered by a dictator (i.e, jews, by Hitler)?

Hmmm, if there is such a higher power as described by religion that watches over and controls everything we do, then under this belief, isnt that higher power directly responsible for all such events on Earth, and therefore this god being is the cause of all evil?