So disappointing and infuriating last night. Tried hard mode with our group of all 29s, couldn't get past the confluxes. 3 of us were able to hold our own no problem but the same 2 or 3 people kept dying and then the domino effect came into play, we tried it for about 2 and a half hours before giving up and flying through the whole thing on normal. I need to start doing this thing on hard mode the expansion's less than a month away and I'm missing so much gear that is available to me.
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We tried it first time with 1 Level 30, the rest level 29.
Took over 10 hours in total + attempts to cheese Atheon. Failed.
Last night, we had 1 level 29 and the rest level 30. Despite being a man then 2 man down mid fight in Atheon, we complete it start to finish in under 2 hours.
DSP of 33% less because you're under level is a total pain! Best to keep running Normal till you get chest, gloves and boots + exotic helm to do Hard @ 30, then hope for helm in Hard. That's the only reason I'm doing Hard Mode now.
That and Vex Myto gun.
No worries Chewie - thanks for letting us know.
Sieze is right - I'll need to offer first to our reserve Ps3ud0 but will add Trixster to the reserve list too.
Poly - you up for friday night raid - normal then hard mode run if time permitting?
The annoying part for me is, I think if we could get past the conflux part we could cheese our way to the gatekeepers. Both the Oracles and Templar can be cheesed, a youtube guide will get you through Gorgon's maze and I don't think platforming stage is any different. I knew there was a strong possibility we wouldn't beat Atheon but even if we got the other stages done some of us should have seen some decent awards. I haven't seen a piece of raid gear since my very first raid, seems like forever ago.
PSN Friday night 20:30 - normal mode then hard mode run time permitting.
1)- Zoomee - zoomeez - Hunter 29 / 30
2)- oHutchyo - oHutchyo - Warlock 29
3)- Sieze2 - Sieze2 - Warlock 30
4)- SGWills - ? - Titan 29
5)- Ps3ud0?
6)- Dredd - Dr3ddPS - Warlock 29 / 30
Reserves:
Ps3ud0 - Polynomial007 - Hunter 30
Kissenger - Videotrap - Titan 28
Trixster
1)- Zoomee - zoomeez - Hunter 29 / 30
2)- oHutchyo - oHutchyo - Warlock 29
3)- Sieze2 - Sieze2 - Warlock 30
4)- SGWills - ? - Titan 29
5)- Ps3ud0?
6)- Dredd - Dr3ddPS - Warlock 29 / 30
Reserves:
Ps3ud0 - Polynomial007 - Hunter 30
Kissenger - Videotrap - Titan 28
Trixster
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Sorry just saw this - yeah I can be around. Somehow the week I'm busiest and I'm getting the chances to raid that I normally just can't fit in/get enough people - that's life.
8.30 Friday with my 30 Hunter
ps3ud0
This is the same reason why I didn't bother with a group of 'experienced' lv29s who were running through hard mode on their alts with my lv30 Hunter. The guy actually got funny with me and implied I wasn't 'skilled' because I wouldn't join his group.
I've seen too many failed Atheon attempts where the majority of the team were lv29s, it really isn't worth the hassle unless you know how to cheese.
Sorry just saw this - yeah I can be around. Somehow the week I'm busiest and I'm getting the chances to raid that I normally just can't fit in/get enough people - that's life.
8.30 Friday with my 30 Hunter
ps3ud0
eeek - that'll hopefully be 4 x Level 30 players we have!
(provided I can level this darn armour up!)Might be best we just jump straight in for a hard mode run... we'll see on the day I guess
Completely forgot about signing up for a raid this week. I'll be around on Fri to act as a reserve if required / join a second run if enough interest. Happy with normal and/or hard. 29 Hunter.
Brilliant run on hard mode last night with Fr0dders, Martin, Parko, Mr Jones and Nuts. Nailed it!
I know the teleport is now supposed to be random but I got teleported all 5 times during the Atheon fight last night. I think this is what actually helped us do it first time, having the same person holding the relic (me in this case) for each run helps it run smoother.
I wonder if it really is random or by doing something specific you can ensure you get teleported??
Could be pure luck I suppose but last night, after Time's Vengeance, I left the central platform with the relic each time and headed toward the entrance/door making me the furthest back of the whole group.
I know the teleport is now supposed to be random but I got teleported all 5 times during the Atheon fight last night. I think this is what actually helped us do it first time, having the same person holding the relic (me in this case) for each run helps it run smoother.
I wonder if it really is random or by doing something specific you can ensure you get teleported??
Could be pure luck I suppose but last night, after Time's Vengeance, I left the central platform with the relic each time and headed toward the entrance/door making me the furthest back of the whole group.
We did it in 1hr 35m, could easily have been 1h 15m if not for me dying on the confluxes numerous times.
I've noticed similar behaviour in that if I behave the same way, I seem to get sent into the past / future worlds almost every time.
It could be complete balderdash, and just the same random number generator that means you get the same crucible match 6 times in a row.
But it wouldn't surprise me if in a few weeks time it turned out not to be random at all, just a different selection criteria.
We did it in 1hr 35m, could easily have been 1h 15m if not for me dying on the confluxes numerous times.
We only wiped once on the confluxes though didn't we?? If I recall, the second time you died we carried on and I ended defending the central conflux alone in the 3rd part. We spent a lot longer in the flippin' Gorgon's Maze, at least 15 minutes longer than we needed to.
eeek - that'll hopefully be 4 x Level 30 players we have!
Might be best we just jump straight in for a hard mode run... we'll see on the day I guess
i will still be up for this
i feel that as there 4 lvl 30's i should bring the average down and bring my lvl 29
eeek - that'll hopefully be 4 x Level 30 players we have!
Might be best we just jump straight in for a hard mode run... we'll see on the day I guess
If we have plenty of 30's and run hard initially I would prefer to use my level 29 Hunter as my 30 Warlock has done it this week already. That said if we get stuck at the end I am happy to go get the 30 and not worry about the loot.
i will still be up for this
i feel that as there 4 lvl 30's i should bring the average down and bring my lvl 29
Yes I'm good with doing Hard too. Would we be doing normal afterwards too?
As I understand it;
- Hard mode first equals bigger loot pool, therefore less chance of armour drops but double roll so more drops overall?
- Normal mode first equals smaller loot pool with greater chance of armour in particular, though obviously loot pool does not contain helmet, mythoclast etc.
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sounds like a plan to me, think we did alright with the majority of players on lv 29, so with most on lv 30 it should be pretty good going