I would like to give trials a serious go but I can very rarely make Friday nights.
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I would like to give trials a serious go but I can very rarely make Friday nights.
Cool, I'll ping you an invite if you are online. I'd be up for trials, but can't do much earlier than 8pm most evenings.
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Anyone willing to help me get past Lvl 33, half way there but could really do with a couple of good Lvl 34 players for the Arena and Trials. Probably be on this afternoon. Also anyone else who wants help or a fireteam members for raids, daily strikes etc then feel free to add me.
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Usual procedure is to post a time and date and get people to sign up on this thread for raids and PoE. Not many trials players but as you can see I'm trying to get a regular group together.
Need to be properly gear up though, Trials is hardcore! I wouldn't even bother going in at level 33 tbh, putting yourself at any kind of disadvantage is asking for a world of pain and frustration.
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Your going to need a lot of etheric light and the right legendaries.
You need max intellect without it you will be destroyed. You need as much discipline too strength doesn't matter.
You also need the right perks on your armour. I have 2 sets of pvp armour one which reloads hand cannons faster (thorn, hawkmoon, last word) another for pulse rifles (red death and messenger).
You then need special ammo perks as well for whatever sniper or shotgun your running.
You need a perfect or near perfect roll on your felwinters, matador or party crasher.
All other shotguns don't compare to those 3.
You then need a perfect or near perfect roll on radegast, drwamwaker or ash factory.
If your using messenger then you want truth or exotic shotgun/sniper. Patience and time is good.
Basically you not only need to be level 34 but with all the right perks and loadouts.
I've been to the lighthouse 2 weeks in a row now and last weekend I managed 9-0 with zero losses so I still have my mercy for this week. I got 29 kills with 15 deaths.
So 2.0 k/d overall so I'm getting better at it.
Oh and you need the right exotic armour and the right bubbles ticked in your sub classes. Basically every single detail matters as it will give you that slight edge over not having them all.
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Basically this. But I don't believe top 1%. 2 strong players can carry a weaker player through it. But ideally everyone needs to be a decent player.
On the loading screen if I see a loadout with the wrong options ticked (crap grenades for instance). I know it's going to be an easy game as they aren't high skill enough to know what grenades are better than others then they have no chance against 3 players all running the right loadouts and gear who are decent at PVP.
If you see someone with 0 intellect then you shouldn't be losing to them.
We went a full game on trials last week and got Bulletproof (zero deaths).
That basically means they didn't get a single kill the full game. Another game we only had 1 death between us so was so close to us getting 2 bulletproofs in 1 run of trials. Didn't matter though as the person with the death had the highest kills and the win mattered more. But bulletproofing teams in trials is pretty much unheard of. If all 3 are failing to get a single kill the full game then they shouldn't be in trials at all.
Get the right gear, loadouts, weapons and you can achieve a decent PVP score in crucible 95% of the time then you can do trials. Work together and get your strategies sorted. You need to be good at communicating and making calls.
If you have died don't complain or cry and swear about it. Instead help your team by calling out where they are and what their health is like. if I have hit someone 2 times with thorn and he is the last one alive and I die, i tell the other 2 "1 shot running mid".
They know that means he is very low health and it will take 1 shot to drop him and they know he's in the mid area.
Or other calls like "shotgun stairs".
They know someone with a shotgun is at the stairs.
Oh and if someone is cheating don't worry about it. you can beat them legit. We had a lag switcher last week and we smashed his team.
When we had killed 2 of them dead, all 3 of us watched their orbs with shotguns and the radar. All of a sudden they would magically revive and we put them down again. Then we would see the 1 guy that was alive (lag switcher) running into walls and we all pounded him with bullets. Then went back to watching the bodies.
You need to know how to overcome any situation you will be put up against. If you know someone has self revive watch the dead bodies with a shotgun.
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That was from bungie's own numbers on the opening week.
Obviously the number may have grown now more have been carried, but that's the target audience for this type of competition.
This depends entirely on player skill....
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My stats in crucible are terrible because I play for fun, but because of trials I am taking it more seriously now. Before my loadouts were all wrong. Playing with high skillers is making me up my game.
My loadouts aren't anywhere near perfect but they are better by a HUGE margin than before when I didn't care. I had 0 intellect on my hunter lol because of POE gear.
I have over 10+ etheric light sitting in the vault for when my perfect gear drops and now have max intellect, etc on my current gear. I 365'd felwinters, radegast, etc because that little bit more damage could be the difference.
I think I'm only missing one or two bits of gear now for each character apart from my titan, he doesn't have much at all.
The normal vendors sell gear with fast reload hand cannon, intellect and discipline. Check the guys at the table at the back and the crucible vendors out. Their stuff can be pretty decent.
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Specials wins rounds. Whenever I pop a special I know I'm getting kills.
Intellect = specials.
Specials = Kills
Kills = Wins
You need to have at least 2 players with max intellect on your team to create orbs for someone who doesn't.
Because it's only 3v3 it matters so much more. Obviously if you cannot hit a barn door with a golden gun then all the intellect in the world isn't going to help you but then nothing will and Trials isn't for you. But for those good at PVP you need max intellect.
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Using a special which requires super energy which increases faster with max intellect usually will win you a round 9 times out of 10.
You have 3 guys on your team so all of you running max intellect means 3 rounds in the bag from your specials.
The first person to pop their special should then have enough for a second from all the orbs from the proceeding rounds.
Specials do indeed win rounds because when you use them you should be getting at least 2 kills with it.
Golden gun should allow you to kill them before they kill you. It's a 1 shot kill even if you hit them in the toe.
supers are very difficult to counter outside of the heavy round.
I've completely turned round a 3 v 1 scenario with a well timed golden gun on many an occasion.
You ideally want to avoid using your super on heavy rounds because its so easy to knock your super out with a rocket launcher, meaning its completely wasted. Chances are you will only get maybe one to two supers in trials so its vital you don't waste it. Its stuff like this that makes a different with the top tier PVP competitions.
You need to use your super at only the right time to tip the balance of the round without wasting it. If you can tip a 3 v 1 twice in a game, and the other guys has zero intellect and only gets one super and wastes it .....
If you rock up to a trials game in poe pure strength armor, and whatever purple gun you thought may be good and just any old weapons, you'll get slaughtered. Like Pshycho says, there are only real a few loadouts viable against similar level oponents. Granted some will go 9-0 just running no land beyond, but thats just beacuse they have a natural level of skill that outclasses their opponents enough for gear not to matter.
If you're not that sort of level, gear matters.
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I don't think anyone was suggesting gear doesn't matter. There's a lot of different factors that can tip the scales in your favour, but ultimately, it's down to being a decent player.
I got a few different loadouts, I'll be giving a few a try this evening. Voidwalker and Sunsinger, long range/sniping setups and close quarters shotgun/melee.
I got a few different loadouts, I'll be giving a few a try this evening. Voidwalker and Sunsinger, long range/sniping setups and close quarters shotgun/melee.
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It really depends who your facing, I killed numerous blade dancers, gunslingers, sunsingers, if your smart enough and have a decent sniper a headshot isn't too bad. Golden guns for example is a bit tricky, if there too far then I'm able to snipe them, if there too close I can get them while the animation is up.Dodging a void walker is pretty easy since I run blade dancer myself, and titan smash can be predictable at times. And I've won a lot of rounds without having anyone on my side ever pop a special.
Personally I have found nades to be the most important item, and as such I ran max discipline and the rest in int. It gets me way more kills then supers, can be used to also defend me, used tactically on orbs.
Off course your milage my vary. I'm personally super excited for this weeks, I got 9-1 last week, would have seen the lighthouse if I had the mercy but forgot to get one doh. This week I can finally get boots with heavy ammo, and the launcher is basically perfect crucible stats.
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