DFI or MSI?

Gashman · 7 Jun 2006 at 18:30

so your trying to say its worth spending almost double on a motherboard just because it clocks a bit higher than an already almost perfect motherboard?

easyrider · 7 Jun 2006 at 18:36

Gashman said:
so your trying to say its worth spending almost double on a motherboard just because it clocks a bit higher than an already almost perfect motherboard?

Well if I'm spending 300 quid on a cpu that I wish to overclock to a cpu that will cost 700 quid fully stable with at least volts as possible...Then yes the extra is worth it.

The expert can be had for 129 quid so the extra 40 odd quid is nothing to have no limitations for tweaking.

Hlebio · 7 Jun 2006 at 20:43

I've got the MSI motherboard and based on the simple fact it wouldn't work with GeIL RAM I am going to say DFI..

james.miller · 7 Jun 2006 at 20:47

pro's - they both good. cons - they both expensive.

dont need no expensive motherboard to run pc4400 1:1 . my cheaparse jetway (£50 btw) is quiet happy with my opteron sitting @3ghz thank you

dale1uk · 7 Jun 2006 at 22:54

More than happy with my MSI board, got my 3700 clocked nicely, its easy to work with and it's solid as a rock. I did look at the DFI boards and their reputation speaks for itself but the extra £40-£50 put me off and I've never looked back.

dark4orz · 8 Jun 2006 at 12:13

My Prevouis Board was ASUS SLI Premium could not get my cpu upto 2.6 until I bought an DFI.

If u want to OVERCLOCK, Dont Bother wasting your time (not to say MSI or Asus or another brand are rubbish), buy the best you can get, Thats why I went for a DFI, believe me you won't regret it. Fine it takes you a while to get use to the settings of the bios, due to that the tweaking options are so many, look @ my sig and that clock is on AMD's Standard HSF which came with the processor. My 2nd Rig will consist of a DFI Motherboard, I won't bother for going anything less.

Good Luck Dude.

easyrider · 8 Jun 2006 at 12:21

when I get my conroe I will be getting a DFI MOBO theyt are just quality boards

Murzo · 8 Jun 2006 at 12:40

I think this is settled DFI wins hands down!!!

james.miller · 8 Jun 2006 at 16:28

dark4orz said:
My Prevouis Board was ASUS SLI Premium could not get my cpu upto 2.6 until I bought an DFI.

If u want to OVERCLOCK, Dont Bother wasting your time (not to say MSI or Asus or another brand are rubbish), buy the best you can get, Thats why I went for a DFI, believe me you won't regret it. Fine it takes you a while to get use to the settings of the bios, due to that the tweaking options are so many, look @ my sig and that clock is on AMD's Standard HSF which came with the processor. My 2nd Rig will consist of a DFI Motherboard, I won't bother for going anything less.

Good Luck Dude.

Is my 3ghz opty 148 not good enough? did i not spend enough on my £50 motherboard?

FatRakoon · 8 Jun 2006 at 17:11

easyrider said:
The common sense option is two get the DFI spend the extra an not be limited with your overclock.

If I buy a 300 quid opty and clock it two FX 62 speeds and beyond the extra for the DFI is more than worth it.

But, what limits on the overclock do you get with MSI?

Mine plays 3GHZ just peachy. Currently running at 2.5 but thats purely because:-

(A) - I can take it further should I need to ( Which I dont )
(B) - This 2000HT lark - 250FSB x 4 makes it 1000 spot on. Doubled that this so called magic 2000... At 300FSB, the multi has to then be 3 which equals 900 and then 1800... Dont really know enough about clocking an A64 so I though it better to stick at the 250FSB, but both are perfectly stable.

So, are oyu telling me that if I had a DFI instead of my MSI, then I would get it higher? If so, then how much higher, and would it be worth the extra outlay?

I quite probably could go higher with the MSI, its just that I stopped at 300FSB cos I was starting to soil myself. I was certainly NOT limited by the motherboard at all.

I have just bought myself another MSI, a Neo4 this time, and its early days, but straight away, I threw the CPU in at 250FSB and it never flinched. Its now hovering at 2.75Ghz ( RAM is 4400, stock volts the mobo is only 3 days old, so I am taking my time ) and so far, its been flawless.

For me, and indeed for many many others, the small benefits of the DFI are just that... Too small to justify the large price difference.

And as for saying the DFI is a better, more secure Motherboard for the safety of the CPU, this is utter rubbish. DFI like any other maker of board have been known to have the failure that has taken other parts out. Dont be too complacent and assume that your CPU is safe just because you are clocking with a DFI... Your still clocking it...

Hey, dont get me wrong though! - please dont.

I also have DFI Boards and I am dead chuffed with them, and I am 110% happy with them, and no, no MSI will replace them.

Its just that I have not found a reason yet to chose DFI over MSI for my main CPU where-as the MSI won mainly on price.

Sort of a Price over Features against Features over Price kind of thing?

dark4orz · 8 Jun 2006 at 19:37

james.miller said:
Is my 3ghz opty 148 not good enough? did i not spend enough on my £50 motherboard?

Dont get me wrong m8, Thats a good clock, but im sure thats on watercooling, not to say theirs nothing wrong with that.

DFI gave me the results I wanted over MSI or Asus. The DFI gave a 400mhz over clock just on air, so if thats just on air I am Sure on water it would give me more. As if I stuck with my Asus @ 2.4 on water i Dont think it would reach the same target what a dfi would...

Basically If u can reach a Good clock on air, better clocks can be achieved on water.

james.miller · 8 Jun 2006 at 19:40

its on air actually. scythe ninja plus. I dont know what water has to do with anything :confused:

easyrider · 8 Jun 2006 at 19:44

FatRakoon said:
And as for saying the DFI is a better, more secure Motherboard for the safety of the CPU, this is utter rubbish. DFI like any other maker of board have been known to have the failure that has taken other parts out. Dont be too complacent and assume that your CPU is safe just because you are clocking with a DFI... Your still clocking it...

When did I say that?
Never said that at all. :confused:

I said the DFi alowed me to overclock further on less volts.

I dont see what the problem is.

who cares about saving 40 quid when i'm saving over 400 on a cpu!

I have had epox, asus, and msi mobo's and the DFI wins in every area.

Overclocking, options, stability,appearance,performance

If you want the best,you have to pay for it.

dark4orz · 8 Jun 2006 at 19:50

james.miller said:
its on air actually. scythe ninja plus. I dont know what water has to do with anything

this is about having a rig with a Solid Good base and achieving your maximum overclock, but DFI's are in tune more for Overclocking than MSI's, this where DFI has more of the market due to most DFI Owners OVERCLOCK.

james.miller · 8 Jun 2006 at 19:52

no it isnt, its about me asking you why my 3ghz overclock isnt good enough, and why you think i've wasted my money. Questions which you can not directly answer, it seems. I'm doing better than most peopel with DFI's. what does that say about their dfi's?

there are a lot of boards that'll reach 300fsb and that magical 3ghz. One things for certain, you do not need to spend £150 on a motherboard to do it.

easyrider · 8 Jun 2006 at 19:57

I just go from personal experience.

3ghz with a pants mobo is great news but for me the extra money is worth it.
I will never skimp on a mobo again I have wasted to much money in the past with different mobo's and the DFI's always come up with the goods.

Plus they look cool with the UV slots etc....

james.miller · 8 Jun 2006 at 19:58

how is it pants? because it doesnt glow in the dark?

whatever, i saved £100 over a dfi. You can call it whatever you want lol

easyrider · 8 Jun 2006 at 20:05

james.miller said:
how is it pants? because it doesnt glow in the dark? whatever, i save £100 over a dfi. You can call it whatever you want lol

cause its a jetway!

No way would I have one of those puppies in my windowed AKASA eclipse!
100 quid saving or not.

In fact you would have to pay me to skimp on the main component of a PC.

Plus I love to tweak, and the DFI allows me to tweak to my hearts content.

But I'm not knocking anyone's rig here 3 ghz is great news for you but I never set out to build a budget system so the extra money was not missed getting a DFI.

Anyway the ultra D can be had for 70 now so it would only be a 20 quid saving on the Jetway and for 20 quid more it glows in the dark!

james.miller · 8 Jun 2006 at 20:07

right ok. i wont even get into the "my jetway uses better quality caps than an ultra-d" arguement. That would just be too much to take

and i really dont care if it glows in the dark. i would have, back when i was 15

easyrider · 8 Jun 2006 at 20:39

james.miller said:
right ok. i wont even get into the "my jetway uses better quality caps than an ultra-d" arguement. That would just be too much to take

and i really dont care if it glows in the dark. i would have, back when i was 15

ouch!

there there, come on us blokes are still kids as we are still playing with our pc's you included.

so now you are saying if we mod out cases with uv cathodes etc...we should only be doing this if we where 15?

rubbish

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