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Think this would run ok with 4 sticks/32gb? Struggling to find decent memory in 2 x 16gb
Did Corsair just silently put out the best B Die bin on the market? 4000 16-16-16-36 XMP at 1.40v!
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Might depend a lot on the quality of your mobo and CPU.
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Crucial Ballistix Max is where all the good 2x16 Gb chips went.
I rarely see any Samsung B die 16 Gb modules.
It looks like they try to stick the best chips on 8 Gb sticks so they can overcharge for them, and leave plain 3600 chips on 26 Gb sticks now.
If you do get Micron E die chips on a 3600 kit, thats because they were already binned and couldn't reach 4000.
Also 8 Gb sticks are often single ranked, which performs worse in most gaming situations unless you use 4 sticks. 2x16 dual rank are better than 4x8 Gb single rank as the latter won't OC as well.
I'd just go with any 3600 CL16 right now and apply a bit more voltage to reduce cas to 14, or overclock 3800 CL16. All the better stuff is highly binned and too expensive, especially with DDR5 coming soon.
Same. I would say it was due to brexit making importing harder for companies but even european stores for the memory is reallly bad. The thing is unless I have missed something you can't even buy memory from overlcockers uk sister site caseking as UK delivery is not an option. If I want high tier dual rank memory say 3600 C14 I have been forced to order from the states (had a UK order in since November no stock). Yesterday I got in an order for TeamGroup 2x16GB ARGB White 3600C14 for £300 (delivery hopefully May). Kind of expensive I know but would have been £235 without import fees which is more than fair. Still not too bad for possibly the best dual rank ddr4 kit that will be made and RGB!
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Yeah, ended up just getting 2 more sticks of what I have already off the MM(I think...), may not quite be optimal but will do for now. 
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Hmmm wonder if I should flip my 3600 CL14 / 3900 CL15 / 4200 CL16 on ebay lol.
But I don't think anyone wants DDR4 thats had close to 1.55v going through it for 18 or so months.
But I don't think anyone wants DDR4 thats had close to 1.55v going through it for 18 or so months.
There are no 8 gigabit DRR4 modules.
And it's probably five years when there were dual rank 8 GB DDR4 DIMMs.
8 Gb DDR4 chips became standard long ago...
And now only Samsung B-die maxing at that capacity is guaranteed to give dual rank in 16 GB DIMMs with most DDR4 chips reaching 16 Gb capacity.
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Oh happy days. I got myself some of this after getting fed up with the Viper Steel stuff i bought originally last year that I couldn't get to boot over 3200mhz even though they were 3600mhz sticks. Put these in today, instantly booted straight in at 4000mhz with a 2000mhz fclk. What a difference some quality ram makes 
I picked one of this kits today, and its great so far. My 3600Mhz C16 kit was never able to boot at 4000Mhz no matter what I tried, this one booted at 4000Mhz XMP and 2000Mhz FCLK without a problem.
PS: 102% quality showing on DRAM Calculator
PS: 102% quality showing on DRAM Calculator
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Well only changed the tRC since it was a bit high by default and left everything else on stock XMP. Seems to be working flawlessly. Ran a quick test to make sure everything was fine and 0 errors. I will try and play around with it when I have time.
I got 2 pairs of those, so 32gb for my 5600x running on a msi unify x570.
They run fine with fclk 2000 (which I didnt expect with 4 Sticks) and xmp and I heavily tuned the secondary timings. My unify set terrible secondary timings! Currently on my phone so no screenshot available right now.
I also tried getting them to run at CL 14 but no luck even at 3800. However I didnt try to increase the voltage that much since my mainboard already sets it a little bit higher. Went to 1.468 I think.
They run fine with fclk 2000 (which I didnt expect with 4 Sticks) and xmp and I heavily tuned the secondary timings. My unify set terrible secondary timings! Currently on my phone so no screenshot available right now.
I also tried getting them to run at CL 14 but no luck even at 3800. However I didnt try to increase the voltage that much since my mainboard already sets it a little bit higher. Went to 1.468 I think.
To be honest I havent tried getting them tighter since they have been running 100% stable for days, even with hrs of gaming. Did a quick Latency benchmark on Aida and got 54.0ns so its actually really good for a stock kit, the lowest on my previous BDie kit was 53.3ns. I will try tomorrow since I have off.
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Just ordered these to go with my 2600.
If you mean Ryzen 2600, you unfortunately wasted money.
Already 3600MHz would be good achievement for very mediocre memory controller of Zen+ CPUs.
And no matter how tightly tweaked memory, it won't make that twice succeeded architecture perform like modern Ryzen.
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already run my the ram I have at 3600MHz but want lower latency and voltage.
Will be getting a newer CPU later this year anyway.
Likely no way to lower voltages with need to push and pull that memory controller of Zen+ heavily.
Hey guys. I totally forgot I wanted to post the quick&dirty timings I achieved. I didn't try extensively so there might be room for improvement still.
https://ibb.co/FWWY1MS
https://ibb.co/FWWY1MS
Does this kit come in 2x16Gb?
£170 for 16GB pushes 32GB higher than other b die kits that are pushing close to 4000/c16, e.g. 8 pack 2x16gb kit which I have running at 3800 Cl14.
Any possibility of it running 4000 CL14?
I imagine 2 kits of 2x8gb are harder to run 4000 C16, yet alone 4000 C14 / C15
£170 for 16GB pushes 32GB higher than other b die kits that are pushing close to 4000/c16, e.g. 8 pack 2x16gb kit which I have running at 3800 Cl14.
Any possibility of it running 4000 CL14?
I imagine 2 kits of 2x8gb are harder to run 4000 C16, yet alone 4000 C14 / C15