Digg.com - Modern Warfare 2 boycott.

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By doing this I can only see this damaging sales. If the single player is anything to go by from the previous game then people will be just pirating it for that and not buying the actual game. It was the multiplayer side that made people buy the game but if they have gone over to p2p hosting then i can see a drop in sales.
 
Tefal said:
it was bundled free with the pc patch was sold seperaatly on the consoles.
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So this is definite? Not to doubt you, Tefal - 25 posts a day over 2 years speaks volumes about your dedication to the online community and all - but charging people for things you didnt notice, didn't have time or didn't bother to fix before release, that's just a bit too much for me to get my head around. On a base level, I'd say that needs to be factored in to the volume of Xbox DLC sales - some morons were obviously willing to pay whatever was necessary to obtain a playable experience on a game they already paid for, but it could also explain further why thay thought they could get away with this kind of crap. If you can charge people an extra 20% (estimated, I don't know the exact figures and I'm too drunk to look them up) for mandatory updates, why not extend that across the gaming community? With the huge inflation of console gamers participating in online gameplay, the average IQ of the community gamer would have dropped into double figures - and not respectable double figures, either. Maybe that's why console gamers are so convinced consoles are the better gaming platform - game pads are so much more dribble-resistant than keyboards, after all.
 
Deadbeat said:
So this is definite? Not to doubt you, Tefal - 25 posts a day over 2 years speaks volumes about your dedication to the online community and all - but charging people for things you didnt notice, didn't have time or didn't bother to fix before release, that's just a bit too much for me to get my head around. On a base level, I'd say that needs to be factored in to the volume of Xbox DLC sales - some morons were obviously willing to pay whatever was necessary to obtain a playable experience on a game they already paid for, but it could also explain further why thay thought they could get away with this kind of crap. If you can charge people an extra 20% (estimated, I don't know the exact figures and I'm too drunk to look them up) for mandatory updates, why not extend that across the gaming community? With the huge inflation of console gamers participating in online gameplay, the average IQ of the community gamer would have dropped into double figures - and not respectable double figures, either. Maybe that's why console gamers are so convinced consoles are the better gaming platform - game pads are so much more dribble-resistant than keyboards, after all.
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No you idiot, the patch was free on the consoles the maps where spold separately to it.

they where only bundled on the pc.



also wtf does my post count have to do with anything?
And for the love of god paragraphs.
 
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Tefal said:
well actually no.

Instead of just ripping the tried and tested dedi sever code from their older game they have spent rather a lot of money making this IW.net system (remember this will have cost more to make than just using dedi servers) and will have taken more time to develop.

Which means at some point IW.net is going to have to produce a profit for them.


That's bad news as it means there's going to be more costs that just the game at some point down the line.
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Interesting. Well I still remain hopeful.
 
Tefal said:
No you idiot, the patch was free on the consoles the maps where spold separately to it.

they where only bundled on the pc.



also wtf does my post count have to do with anything?
And for the love of god paragraphs.
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Misinterpreted your quote, over the shock and am willing to admit to my mistakes, apologise and blanket the whole incident in denial for the sake of saving face. The post count reference was an indication of how committed you seem to be on these boards, and seeing as you seem to be fairly respected I assumed you weren't one to doubt flippantly when posting factual data. Obviously I underestimated the cynicism toward even veteran posters on OcUK, so apologies for poking a soft spot.

I'm relieved that this was a mistake on my part - charging for any updates, let alone those that are mandatory, seemed extremely risky. It makes you wonder though, how far are they willing to push this? The fact is that even with the release of this blow, the online PC community will be respectable, even if it doesn't match up to the console crowd. Given that, I don't see how profit-driven corporations could resist giving the cash cow a few more whacks - given that if it bursts, the worst they could do is pick up their winnings and revert to a previous base level of profit generation. I've only got back into PC gaming over the last 6 months, and I've never been a big fan of online multiplayer, but even I can see that there's a slippery slope ahead.
 
What happens when you're hosting a game and need to go? I'd hate having to tell people that sorry I need to go so you all have to stop playing.

What happens if you're playing a game and your internet drops, or you get a random d/c error, how do you find that game again?

The most conclusive evidence that they are doing this for profit is that they don't have both options available.
 
Calneon said:
What happens when you're hosting a game and need to go? I'd hate having to tell people that sorry I need to go so you all have to stop playing.
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There's Host migration, so the game carries on if the host leaves, just a player down. You may lose Exp for leaving early à la Halo though

Calneon said:
What happens if you're playing a game and your internet drops, or you get a random d/c error, how do you find that game again?
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I don't think you can join in progress, have to start a new game

Calneon said:
The most conclusive evidence that they are doing this for profit is that they don't have both options available.
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Seems most likely, it also forces IW.net on people
 
I think you should be able to join a game in progress, you could on the 360 version of COD4 which uses a similar system. So in theory, you could bring up the list of recent players and join the same game as them if you were disconnected.
 
Cannaton said:
I think you should be able to join a game in progress, you could on the 360 version of COD4 which uses a similar system. So in theory, you could bring up the list of recent players and join the same game as them if you were disconnected.
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Oh, if you could on the 360 CoD4 then I guess you'll be able to

Tefal said:
that's going to be massively annoying imagine having to get 32 people i na lobby before you can start,
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Isn't it 16 player max?
 
Because it wouldnt be a level playing field of course! (Also I'm sure there must be some incentive for IW from MS for selling copies on 360...)
 
Cannaton said:
Because it wouldnt be a level playing field of course! (Also I'm sure there must be some incentive for IW from MS for selling copies on 360...)
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Foolishness. If they want to demand we (figuratively; I never had any interest in this game before the controversy and its deeper ramifications sparked) stoop to the level of console gamers, they should force console gamers to aspire to our level of competition. Driving the best toward biased handicaps is what ruined horse racing - that and bulemia, but I doubt that's relevant.
 
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