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naffa said:
I think you're forgetting the fact that PC gaming enthusiasts are in the minority for the games market and for the PC hardware market. The businesses really don't care if they're going to have to stop producing to us as we make them such a small amount of money compared with the prebuilts the supply and sell. It may not be a nice thought, but we not a market worth catering for.
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I do realise this yes. I think I mentioned that I'm aware MS have bigger fish to fry than PC gamers, but still there will be a loss. Fair enough if it's a tiny number. I don't know the facts, but I do know plenty of gamers that use Windows over the opposition due to games.

You're probably right as for every PC gamer there is a call centre or something using 300 copies of XP

I guess we just don't know and will all have to see how things pan out.
 
[TW]Fox;15171671 said:
5m of these were PC copies. That makes PC a bigger 'minority' than Playstation 3.
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I would imagine he was referring to the 150,000 or so people who are upset enough to have signed the boycott petition as being a minority, even amongst the 5 million PC players.
 
Based on a price of £34.99 as it seems to be selling for on several sites I have checked, if everyone that signed the petition did not buy the game then they would lose £5.2 million.

I'm sure they would notice that.
 
Kobrakai said:
Based on a price of £34.99 as it seems to be selling for on several sites I have checked, if everyone that signed the petition did not buy the game then they would lose £5.2 million.

I'm sure they would notice that.
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yes but with the price hike on consoles it would be less. plus they wouldnt get 34.99 for every game sold the retailer and other costs would be cut out of that
 
billybob89 said:
You're a minority. COD4 as a whole sold 13 million copies across three formats. You're just a small group of chump change to Activision.
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A third of the 155k signatures will end up buying the game anyway. Some people just make noise to feel part of something bigger.
 
Kobrakai said:
Based on a price of £34.99 as it seems to be selling for on several sites I have checked, if everyone that signed the petition did not buy the game then they would lose £5.2 million.

I'm sure they would notice that.
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They would if Activision got £35 for every copy sold and retailers, distribution firms, manufacturing plants etc. were all working for free out of the goodness of their hearts. However, the reality of things means Activision will be seeing nowhere near that sort of money for it.
 
Yup, loads of pc versions will still be sold. I will buy it when it goes down in price. The SP will be amazing as all the sp cod missions are! How many people actually like 64man players on the standard maps? I agree that it might be a bit hit and miss with p2p but it could work ok. I will buy it for the sp and if the mp is even slightly good then i will be happy.

But i would never spend over £30 on a game anyway wait 6 months and there will have either been various sales on it or it will just be reduced anyway.
 
I was only going to buy this for the Multiplayer.
The single player in CoD + 2 + 4 + 5 was very good and enjoyable.

I've always enjoyed the multiplayer, but because of how badly they've changed the multiplayer I won't be buying the game full stop.

CoD4 online was great fun as is CoD5 :] I'll stick with those + L4D2 :)
 
MW2 is £24.99 a lot of places for the pc, so the mark-up for retailers is huge.

After manufacturing/publishing/distribution etc the amount per unit received by IW is probably around £10 or less, so even if the full 150,000 did cancel there orders, it's "only" £1.5 mil. lost potential revenue. However the distributors/publishers/retailers etc are the ones who loose out more. So it's them who should be lobbying IW/Activision.

Another thing, there's the good old saying, "there's no such thing as bad publicity" Friends and I only ordered mw2 after it being "advertised" so heavily on nearly every tech site the last week. - The pc version is around 35% cheaper - regardless of if it's not as good as it should have been, it's still going to have advantages over the console version. And for around £15 less - it's probably worth a punt.

We are frustrated about the p2p system no servers etc, however it's a given that some wise guys will make a mod that allows server access.
 
Mr. Anderson said:
Yup, loads of pc versions will still be sold. I will buy it when it goes down in price. The SP will be amazing as all the sp cod missions are! How many people actually like 64man players on the standard maps? I agree that it might be a bit hit and miss with p2p but it could work ok. I will buy it for the sp and if the mp is even slightly good then i will be happy.

But i would never spend over £30 on a game anyway wait 6 months and there will have either been various sales on it or it will just be reduced anyway.
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I wouldn't count on that, COD4 is still £30 in most places and thats been out for years.
 
Kenai said:
Someone dug up some sales figures way back near the beginning of the thread, showed something like 5/5/3 split PC/360/PS3.
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Call of Duty 4 is just shy of 8M copies on X360.

Also the only quote in this thread I seen of the 5M pc sales was someone else just saying it.
 
Would it actually be possible for someone to make a downloadable patch that enables dedicated server access? Answers from people that know rather than guesses would be appreciated :)
 
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[TW]Fox;15171671 said:
5m of these were PC copies. That makes PC a bigger 'minority' than Playstation 3.
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Wish that were true but sadly its not. I looked at Activision's public accounts and they state PC sold between 6-10% across all games for the 4 financial quarters from Jan 08 to Dec 08 which includes all the sales figures from Oct 2007 to Oct 2008 which was the period COD4 would have sold the most.

Consoles account for over 85% of Activision's sales in that same period and handhelds another 5% which leaves the PC @ 10%. X360 sold over 8M copies so far and PS3 is at 4M so PC only accounts for 1M.

Then someone from IW stated that PC piracy was well over 60% so you can see why they are enforcing their own servers to prevent this from happening again.
 
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