disciplinary for unauthorised absence

red eye · 13 Jun 2016 at 19:36

Just had a investigation hearing today for unauthorised absence.

What happened was I booked two days off with the assistant manager who told me to write it in the diary, turns out that the assistant manager does not know anything about it. So now it looks like I put my name in the dairy and not told anyone.
It is in my contract that I should have filled a holiday request form two weeks in before the holiday, but I have never been given one I ask and it gets put in the diary.

what is the likely outcome?

pooley · 13 Jun 2016 at 19:39

smacked bottom tbh

Malevolence · 13 Jun 2016 at 19:39

red eye said:
what is the likely outcome?

A week in the pillory and then flayed alive.

josh_sheffield · 13 Jun 2016 at 19:39

6 months imprisonment, out in 3 with good behaviour....

NoNameNoNumber · 13 Jun 2016 at 19:41

Queen wasp for sure, my dad loves them for a killing.

Noakesy85 · 13 Jun 2016 at 19:41

A warning usually for a first offence. If it does turn out to be a mistake by the AM then there's not much they can do. I guess it kinda highlight the companies failings by not having you fill out the Propper forms as stated in Company Policy.

Noakesy85 · 13 Jun 2016 at 19:42

If not what I said... All of the above

Pho · 13 Jun 2016 at 19:44

Assuming they do give you a warning then it sounds like time to start looking for a new job. Surely they should see that it was a genuine mistake given you wrote it in the book and didn't just skive off and pretend you were in.

Another mistake could turn into a formal warnings which is going to be far worse for your next employment.

Participant · 13 Jun 2016 at 19:59

If companies like you as an employee, this type of thing tends to get overlooked in my experience. If they start making huge deals about menial administrative things, then start looking for other opportunities, would be my tentative advice based on knowing nothing about you.

£15 · 13 Jun 2016 at 20:01

red eye said:
Just had a investigation hearing today for unauthorised absence.

What happened was I booked two days off with the assistant manager who told me to write it in the diary, turns out that the assistant manager does not know anything about it. So now it looks like I put my name in the dairy and not told anyone.
It is in my contract that I should have filled a holiday request form two weeks in before the holiday, but I have never been given one I ask and it gets put in the diary.

what is the likely outcome?

So they're lying to cover their incompetence?

red eye · 13 Jun 2016 at 20:19

so hopefully a verbal warning then.
so with it being in my contract that I should be filling out holiday request form and they don't supply me with one would that not be breach of contract if they decide on dismissal?

Also I been reading up on holidays, the gov site says I should give twice the amount of days I want to take off as notice. My contract says two weeks for any length. Do I follow the gov site or is the contract fair?

Cosimo · 13 Jun 2016 at 20:21

Noakesy85 said:
If not what I said... All of the above

No, just a day in the stocks outside hq.

red eye · 13 Jun 2016 at 20:23

BadMojo said:
So they're lying to cover their incompetence?

yes looks like am forgot and is covering his ass or he's being an ass. I wouldn't be surprised tbh

red eye · 13 Jun 2016 at 20:26

Participant said:
If companies like you as an employee, this type of thing tends to get overlooked in my experience. If they start making huge deals about menial administrative things, then start looking for other opportunities, would be my tentative advice based on knowing nothing about you.

this is what I was thinking but I can't leave until all my tools come back nearly £100 has walked out my box in a week.

Need cctv for my box

Malevolence · 13 Jun 2016 at 20:30

red eye said:
yes looks like am forgot and is covering his ass or he's being an ass. I wouldn't be surprised tbh

Caged · 13 Jun 2016 at 20:32

red eye said:
Just had a investigation hearing today for unauthorised absence.

What happened was I booked two days off with the assistant manager who told me to write it in the diary, turns out that the assistant manager does not know anything about it. So now it looks like I put my name in the dairy and not told anyone.
It is in my contract that I should have filled a holiday request form two weeks in before the holiday, but I have never been given one I ask and it gets put in the diary.

what is the likely outcome?

If you asked your line manager what to do, they gave you duff instructions, and you did what they said then I fail to see how this can go anywhere.

Housey · 13 Jun 2016 at 20:40

How long have you been there? Have you had any such disciplinary before?

Semple · 13 Jun 2016 at 20:43

Caged said:
If you asked your line manager what to do, they gave you duff instructions, and you did what they said then I fail to see how this can go anywhere.

It's OP's word against the AM's though. Technically if his contract states that he must fill out a holiday form, then that's what you must do.

OP, did you not ask the AM or GM for a holiday form? Do they not have to sign the diary to say they've authorised the leave?

Bottom line it does sound petty, and these are probably things you should bring up if you have a hearing.

red eye · 13 Jun 2016 at 20:46

About Four years, not had any hearings just a little chat concerning my child and taking him to school.

Nevakonaza · 13 Jun 2016 at 20:50

Most likely a warning of some sort that gets forgot about,Dont worry about it its not the end of the world,They threaten people like this all the time at our place nobody gives a..

Typical management for you there though,Why didn't she write it in the diary and get you to fill in the sheet,She is obviously not very good at her job,Even though you should have filled a form in..the fact the assistant manager is now in denial..all i can say is..typical management.