Discussion of currently unaired TV episodes.

What the members discuss on these forums can no way be cause for concern to ocuk shop. If you think it does provide proof imo. Because this is a discussion forum ok ocuk run it but it is just a forum. If ocuk are too worried id just rename the forum and seperate it from anything shop related and just run it like any other forum.

Just my opinion. Not saying anything bad just discussing alternatives to the problems they are worried about.
 
The line has to be drawn somewhere. Software/game piracy talk obviously isn't allowed, so why shouldn't videos/music be included too.

Is Empire an American based magazine?
(I don't know)



That may very well be true, you could also assume there are a large number of software pirates, I very much doubt the each person using Photoshop on this forum have paid for it.

This doesn't mean the forums should allow users to discuss it, does it? It follows the same principle

I'm not arguing with you guys, just giving my take on it.

Nope, they are British and pretty big, hence the Empire Awards ceremony they host every year.

That may well be the case, but from my point of view it's understandable.

OcUK supply computer equipment, they don't want to be linked to that computer equipment being used for what is essentially illegal means.

Empire which was mentioned before do not carry such a link, and as such it is probably easier for them to let it slide. Atleast thats how i see it.

Possibly the most tenuous link I've ever seen. If you put it like that, Empire have more to lose due to their association with the film and tv companies.
 
Bledd has pretty much summed it up.
We cannot allow the discussion of piracy on the forums, and ultimately any thread about watching stuff that isn't out here yet tends to result inevitably in piracy talk, or it is blatantly obvious that most of the people talking about the content have obtained it by less than legal means.

The rule was from memory originally mainly for games as people were taking the mickey ("my aunt/uncle/pet alligator bought it and sent it to me" being one justification that was common, although not very believable when the person talking about it was doing so days before the official release anywhere), but expanded to cover TV/Films when it it started to become more of a problem with them as well.
But so what? We same to be constantly falling into the idea that an admission of guilt is the same as committing the offence itself, which it blatantly isn't.

I've seen plenty of threads in other parts of the forum where things like taking drugs, or speeding, or violence have been discussed openly. Which is sensible, since the police aren't going to come beating the door down to find the addresses of posters on here because of that. Yet, if someone were to post "Where in Luton can I buy some decent cocaine?", that would, completely understandably, be locked and deleted instantly, as it would be pre-cursor to an illegal act.

That, to me, is how the piracy rules here should be. No-one should have to prove how they obtained something, or keep schtum until some magically legal release date appears. If you've seen a program, or played a game, talk about it. Because, as I've already said, there's a blatant difference between talking about stuff that has been obtained through piracy, and actually discussing how to pirate it. I don't see how it would be much different to the no competitors rule.

Werewolf said:
With regards to spoiler tags, I doubt people would use them much, which combined with the general desire of the admins to keep the forum software as close to vanilla means that they are unlikely to be implemented and wouldn't have an affect on the rules anyway (I'd love spoiler tags for the Anime/Books threads).
That's a shame, as yeah, I think a spoiler tag would be great. I guess it's just a matter of people realising you can still blue your text at the moment. Down to the OPs to give good guidelines I suppose.
 
That, to me, is how the piracy rules here should be. No-one should have to prove how they obtained something, or keep schtum until some magically legal release date appears. If you've seen a program, or played a game, talk about it.

Because it ****es people off! I don't want to go in a game thread and find spoilers a week before the game is out just because I am going to be legally buying the game.
 
One way I've seen used elsewhere to cover up spoilers is nice and simple and just requires you to hover over the text in question and you are then shown whatever was deemed to be spoiler in nature (not sure how it works but some kind of code wrapping needed no doubt) ... they use it over on Gateworld and the IMDb forums from memory.
 
Spoiler bb code will hide the text and you cant see it till you click the spoiler box which then expands to show the text. Easy to impliment just a few lines of code. Done it a few times on some forums i administrate.
 
Possibly the most tenuous link I've ever seen. If you put it like that, Empire have more to lose due to their association with the film and tv companies.

It is, but as Werewolf has said they don't want talk of piracy, or something which can lead to talk of piracy, on the forums.

Other businesses or companies obviously take a different stance.
 
Spoiler bb code will hide the text and you cant see it till you click the spoiler box which then expands to show the text. Easy to impliment just a few lines of code. Done it a few times on some forums i administrate.

Yes it's easy to impliment, it's also easy to use, but not everybody will. Why are we going around in circles?
 
That's a shame, as yeah, I think a spoiler tag would be great. I guess it's just a matter of people realising you can still blue your text at the moment. Down to the OPs to give good guidelines I suppose.

Colouring your text ([COLOR="#1C5780" ]is standard blue[/ COLOR] but remove the spaces) if you want does the job but of course for the people who choose the black theme they're kinda stuffed. I'd argue it's their own fault for not having the sense to stick to the default but that's by the bye.

[quote="SkeeterPSA, post: 15307614"]Also freedom of speech law should apply here to shouldnt it?[/QUOTE]

Not really, OcUK (or indeed any forum) can be held accountable for the material it publishes up to a degree. If you want to go out on the street and shout about whatever you want then provided it isn't expressly prohibited then you can exercise your freedom of speech but while you are posting on a forum that is owned by someone else it only seems fair to show a bit of respect to their views and wishes on what can and cannot be done.
 
In the end, the decision was made at the top level, with good reason in my book, to keep all swearing, piracy talk etc off here, making for a good quality, family forum that we can all enjoy and no possibility of any unwanted attention being drawn to the company.

I have been more heavy handed lately, because far too many people kept ignoring this very simple rule, so I can but apologize to anyone who has had their thread hijacked by rule breakers and thereby closed, but continual post deleting was taking too long and having no effect.
 
OK. so i was in the US last week and saw the new "V" tv series.....

Sorry guys I can't tell you how good it was because I can't discuss it because of the rules..

????

Seems pretty crazy..
 
OK. so i was in the US last week and saw the new "V" tv series.....

Sorry guys I can't tell you how good it was because I can't discuss it because of the rules..

????

Seems pretty crazy..

Seems pretty sensible to me.
 
OK. so i was in the US last week and saw the new "V" tv series.....

Sorry guys I can't tell you how good it was because I can't discuss it because of the rules..

????

Seems pretty crazy..

Says you though, not saying you're lying but for every 1 that has an actual reason, there will be 50 that don't. Who are you going to discuss it with anyway? None of us will have seen it yet. Very easy for you to go on an American forum if you're so urgent to discuss it.
 
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