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Final8y · 12 Sep 2009 at 07:55

CryTek's CryEngine 3.0 set to debut next month DX11 support.

CryTek's CryEngine 3.0 set to debut next month
9/11/2009 by: Theo Valich - Get more from this author

During the AMD Vision event, we got the opportunity to talk to Mike Gamble, manager of CryTek's Engine Licensing Business. In a discussion that spanned from different APIs to challenges in adopting new platform.

Due to expansion from a PC-only to a multi-platform engine, CryTekscoredseveral new customers. At present time, CryTek has more thandozen oflicensees, who will all utilize the next-generation CryEngine3. CryEngine 3 is set to debut next month [October], and there areloads of projects that will utilize that engine, especially fewsurprises for the consoles.

Yes, CryEngine 3 is keeping in line with the tradition. Good looking forest...
Yes, CryEngine 3 is keeping in line with the tradition. Good looking forest...

On the pictures in this article, you can see the demo of the engine running DirectX 9 build, expandable with DirectX 10, 10.1 and 11 extensions - depending on the adoption by the licensee. Thus, we'll refrain from commenting on the obligatory ATI's "DirectX 11 Gaming" cardboard, because the information there wasn't correct.

Mike told us that the capabilities of DirectX9 [when properly optimized] are brilliant for customers that want to develop a title for current generation of consoles and PCs. The customers that are targeting next-generation console cycle and the PC should build upon the strengths of DirectX 11 API, given that most of next-generation console hardware will be locked down sometime next year, and pushed out in 2012-2013 frame. We got the same feedback from Epic in the matter of Unreal Engine 4, and the time will tell can CryTek develop into a successful engine developer as well. So far, the work on Crysis 2 is progressing with more impact on gameplay than ever before.

.. and hands down, best looking water ever. You have to see this live to believe it.

Our take is that CryEngine 3 simply blew our minds with the realistic water physics and effects on the "camera" viewpoint... it was really interesting to feel the immersion effect, so the guys and girls in CryTek are looking good to win the award for the best looking water of them all.

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/9/11/cryteks-cryengine-30-set-to-debut-next-month.aspx
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Final8y · 12 Sep 2009 at 08:08

Samsung should make a 3 monitor version of that 6 monitor thin Belize setup.
Better for gamers & cheaper.

Then i could buy one of each for an ideal 9 monitor setup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qf8vHr9e4k

Final8y · 12 Sep 2009 at 09:03

On board an old World War II aircraft carrier, Advanced Micro Devices executives introduced new graphics chips meant to give consumers a killer entertainment experience and deliver a big blow to rivals Nvidia and Intel.

The chip maker introduced a new generation of ATI graphics chips that will be part of desktops this fall and laptops early next year. Among the new features: one PC can power six different monitors at the same time, as illustrated in the ooVoo video conference pictured above.

The chip will drive the latest computers, but it should also give AMD a leg up on its rivals, who’ve fallen behind on their production schedules, said Jon Peddie, an analyst at Jon Peddie Research.

“At the end of the day today,” Rick Bergman, senior vice president of Sunnyvale-based AMD, said, “AMD will be the undisputed graphics leader in the world.”

The chip has 2 billion transistors on it. To put that in perspective, Nvidia’s monster graphics chip from 2008 had 1.4 billion transistors, and the original Intel microprocessor had 2,300 transistors. The advance of chip design and manufacturing — including a 40-nanometer manufacturing process — have made it possible to make such chips.

The chip can do more than 2.5 trillion calculations — 2.5 teraFLOPS — every second. That compares to 1 trillion calculations per second for AMD’s chip from a year ago. That chip is as powerful as the world’s most powerful supercomputer in the year 2000. It’s about 250 times more powerful than the IBM supercomputer Deep Blue, which beat the best chess champion in the world years ago.

amd-2Bergman said the ATI Eyefinity multi-display technology can power six displays with a single graphics card, using DisplayPort technology. That’s a big achievement because graphics cards have to put so much data on a single display that they have a hard time handling multiple displays.

With it, gamers can set up monitors side by side to get an immersive view of their video screens as they play the latest PC games. Business people can video-conference with different people and track different things as if they were in a control room. With four graphics cards in one PC, AMD can operate 24 monitors at the same time.

It can create images with 268 megapixels, where a megapixel yields a pretty decent image on a digital camera. Game players will be able to get 12 times the full high-definition resolution. With so much screen real estate, you don’t even have to scroll around to see different documents, Bergman said.

Jules Urbach, chief executive of special effects firm Lightstage and Otoy, showed a demo of AMD’s animated mascot character, Ruby, as she is rendered to look like a real human with the latest technology. Urbach said his team is creating special effects scenes for movies that extremely realistic, yet can be created with a single AMD chip. Crytek also showed how the graphics chip can render an immersive, hyperrealistic jungle in a video game.

Acer, Dell, HP, MSI and Toshiba are creating computers using AMD’s latest graphics chips. In response, Nvidia said in a statement, “The gaming world has moved to dynamic realism, which depicts actual physical movement more realistically than ever before. For example, the No. 1 PC game coming out next week is ‘Batman: Arkham Assyum,’ which takes advantage of graphics plus physics to give it extraordinary realism. Because we support GPU-accelerated physics, our $129 card that’s shipping today is faster than their new RV870 (code name for new AMD chips) that sells for $399.”

http://venturebeat.com/2009/09/10/a...cs-chip-that-can-power-six-computer-displays/

Final8y · 12 Sep 2009 at 09:38

Final8y · 12 Sep 2009 at 09:59

ATI Radeon Eyefinity, feat. Left 4 Dead on a 175-inch display

http://www.viddler.com/explore/engadget/videos/606/6.26

Final8y · 12 Sep 2009 at 11:27

michaelmk86 said:
congratulations Kylew you win the fanboy of the year award!

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=18043396

michaelmk86 there is a difference to poking fun at a brand than a person.

Kylew did not say anything in that post that needed personal attention unless some fact needed putting straight.

Final8y · 12 Sep 2009 at 11:38

Duran said:
a person that calls people idiots, retards and ignorant because they bought an nvidia card... OK guys ati looks like it made a good card lineup but why do you feel the need to bash nvidia?

I have nothing against bashing either side when its warranted.

What i don't like is lies, generalising of person problems & over exaggerations posted as facts.

BTW: i didn't see idiots, retards and ignorant used in this thread & not by me anyway.

Final8y · 12 Sep 2009 at 11:39

Anyway back on topic guys.

Leave the time wasters michaelmk86 & Duran to it.

Final8y · 12 Sep 2009 at 13:27

chaparral said:
Same here...Been using my 8800gtx SLI setup for 2 years and it still rans all games fine at 1920x1200

I had 2 years out of my 1900xtx CF.
Should see 2 years out of 2x 5xxxX2

Its nice to buy & have peace of mind & feel content for such a period of time.

Final8y · 13 Sep 2009 at 05:59

LOL! noway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compar...g_Units#Radeon_Evergreen_.28HD_5xxx.29_series

Radeon HD 5870 X8 October 20, 2009 Hemlock 40 ~ 8x 2150 PCIe 2.0 x16 (PCIe bridge) 8x 2048 ? ? 8x 1600(320x5):80:32 8x ? 8x ? 8x ? GDDR5 8x 256 11 3.2 Octo GPU solution, UVD2, PowerPlay ~20000 2000W (Idle ~300W) $3000

Final8y · 13 Sep 2009 at 06:19

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
Click on the Multi Monitor.

And with ATI making it easier it should grow.

Final8y · 13 Sep 2009 at 15:48

JediFragger said:
Imagine 2 5870x2's in Crossfire!!

It boggles the mind

If you just want to imagine it then that's up to you.

I will be doing exactly that.

Final8y · 13 Sep 2009 at 16:02

Rroff said:
Problem with 4+ GPUs tho - things tend to get quite laggy - even when your drawing really high framerates it still only feels like half the framerate or less... great for presentations and stuff but not so great for actually playing - get this sometimes with SLI even with 2 GPUs.

I have had 4 GPUS already & have not noticed.

Final8y · 13 Sep 2009 at 16:19

Rroff said:
Have you tried comparing to one GPU with comparable performance? you tend to get used to it or not even notice it until you've tried a system that doesn't have the lag...

that said ATI especially with their 8/16 GPU workstations setups for simulations, etc. and nVidia to a lesser extent have been working on their multiGPU algorithms to reduce how much it gets into the system - which is why you won't really see pure AFR mode used to this extent.

Going from 4GPU to 1GPU was just a mouse click away & im running on a single GPU ATM as the other 3 have been sold awaiting the 2x 5xxxX2.

Final8y · 13 Sep 2009 at 16:40

Rroff said:
Yeah but have you tried with 1 GPU with similiar performance to your 3-4 card setup? even going from 8800GT SLI to an OC'd 260GTX giving very slightly lower fps than the GT SLI setup it was noticeable - tho not massive - from my experience with quad SLI its even more noticeable when you've used both... not had much experience with crossfireX tho.

i have not noticed any when going from 1900xt CF to a 3870 single.

Final8y · 14 Sep 2009 at 08:29

Mal X said:
the ATI 5870 X2 sounds interesting, the photos of it make it look like a real beast too !

Haven't seen any photos of it, do tell.

Final8y · 14 Sep 2009 at 08:32

kylew said:
It just looks like another person who's only read the title and a post about them coming out on the 23rd and thought 'what, I thought they were out the 10th, WE'RE GETTING SKANKED!'

Well they did say you wont believe your eyes.
I think they have delivered on that.

Final8y · 14 Sep 2009 at 08:36

PCZ said:
We have been here before.

Reminder
2900 series
We all know how that turned out.

So going on past experience be prepared for a let down.

Having said that i like most really want AMD to do well this time round.
NV need a kick up the *rse as they have been taking the P for a long time.

Where is the connection between 5xxx & the 2xxx.
If the 4xxx was a let down that you would have a point.
Can you name any tech company who has never had let down in a product.
We could use "So going on past experience be prepared for a let down" on any new product.

Final8y · 14 Sep 2009 at 08:54

Lightnix said:
Rather. Also I'd have to say, which card between RV870 and GT300 really has more parallels to R600? Which one's the late one in all this? GT300 seems to be quite a way off, at least with a late 2009/early 2010 release, and RV870 coming within the month. Then which card's the one that has the complex, exciting but questionable new architecture? Again, GT300 seems to win this with its 'cGPU' oriented MIMD architecture which somewhat reminds me of ATi's move with its VLIW architecture. Sure the thing will be amazing at general purpose parallel applicatioins, but will a traditional graphics pipeline with programmable shaders in today's state really take advantage of a MIMD architecture? Sure it'll be great looking onwards - by which time there will be new cards out, but for more contemporary games the gains may not be that huge. That, again, sounds a lot like what people were saying about R600 shortly after release.

I could be wrong, but it's just a bit of food for thought.

From what i have seen from the 4xxx line im sure the 5xxx line will drive my 30" 2560x1600 just fine. What is there to worry about, DX11 is secondary as far as i'm concerned.

Final8y · 14 Sep 2009 at 10:27

New pics i hope