Discussion On The ATI Radeon 5*** Series Before They Have Been Released Thread

Lightnix · 13 Sep 2009 at 23:20

bru said:
In my oppinion all of you who are expecting the 5870 to trounce the gtx295 by a huge margin are going to be very dissapointed.
I doubt that the 5870 will be as fast as a gtx295 at all let alone beat it. and dont even think about reposting that image of a graph showing the 5870oc miles ahead, as that has no proof of being real at all.

heres a graph i found earlier.

(one dash = £2.50)

NV 8800gts er i mean 9800gtx er no 9800gtx+ nope gtx250
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ATI 5850
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ATI 4850
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NV gtx 300
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There wasn't any unit on your graph so I fixed it, I think I chose the right one?

miker1 · 13 Sep 2009 at 23:21

So we al have to wait until the 22nd now?

Sod that for a game of sailors!

Talk about raising expectations to feverpitch and then letting us drop!

Cd0gz · 13 Sep 2009 at 23:25

miker1 said:
So we al have to wait until the 22nd now?

Sod that for a game of sailors!

Talk about raising expectations to feverpitch and then letting us drop!

Its only just over a week away and there will be benchies out before then i am sure. Plus its the 23rd for the UK, USA are getting it on the 22nd.

EdGey · 13 Sep 2009 at 23:49

edit: nevermind.

Tom|Nbk · 13 Sep 2009 at 23:52

EdGey said:
edit: nevermind.

23rd onwards

bru · 14 Sep 2009 at 00:00

Lightnix said:
There wasn't any unit on your graph so I fixed it, I think I chose the right one?

Laughing my bottom off....nice one

Hotwired · 14 Sep 2009 at 00:06

miker1 said:
So we al have to wait until the 22nd now?

Sod that for a game of sailors!

Talk about raising expectations to feverpitch and then letting us drop!

Good marketing is like a striptease. Has you gagging for it and throwing money without thought at the end :cool:

Wouldn't be any point in salesmen and advertising if people could be relied upon to fork out money for any old tat up for sale

LoadsaMoney · 14 Sep 2009 at 01:14

miker1 said:
So we al have to wait until the 22nd now?

Sod that for a game of sailors!

Talk about raising expectations to feverpitch and then letting us drop!

What do you mean, what date were you expecting.

Mal X · 14 Sep 2009 at 01:49

the ATI 5870 X2 sounds interesting, the photos of it make it look like a real beast too !

kylew · 14 Sep 2009 at 02:39

LoadsaMoney said:
What do you mean, what date were you expecting.

It just looks like another person who's only read the title and a post about them coming out on the 23rd and thought 'what, I thought they were out the 10th, WE'RE GETTING SKANKED!'

rubin1961 · 14 Sep 2009 at 07:18

Im in two minds,5870 or wait and get the 5870x2 now that iv got the dell 3008wfp 30" who i purchesed of Si in mm

PCZ · 14 Sep 2009 at 08:06

We have been here before.

Reminder
2900 series
We all know how that turned out.

So going on past experience be prepared for a let down.

Having said that i like most really want AMD to do well this time round.
NV need a kick up the *rse as they have been taking the P for a long time.

rubin1961 · 14 Sep 2009 at 08:20

Some how i dont think this will be a let down like the 2900 series

Final8y · 14 Sep 2009 at 08:29

Mal X said:
the ATI 5870 X2 sounds interesting, the photos of it make it look like a real beast too !

Haven't seen any photos of it, do tell.

Final8y · 14 Sep 2009 at 08:32

kylew said:
It just looks like another person who's only read the title and a post about them coming out on the 23rd and thought 'what, I thought they were out the 10th, WE'RE GETTING SKANKED!'

Well they did say you wont believe your eyes.
I think they have delivered on that.

Final8y · 14 Sep 2009 at 08:36

PCZ said:
We have been here before.

Reminder
2900 series
We all know how that turned out.

So going on past experience be prepared for a let down.

Having said that i like most really want AMD to do well this time round.
NV need a kick up the *rse as they have been taking the P for a long time.

Where is the connection between 5xxx & the 2xxx.
If the 4xxx was a let down that you would have a point.
Can you name any tech company who has never had let down in a product.
We could use "So going on past experience be prepared for a let down" on any new product.

Lightnix · 14 Sep 2009 at 08:45

Final8y said:
Where is the connection between 5xxx & the 2xxx.
If the 4xxx was a let down that you would have a point.

Rather. Also I'd have to say, which card between RV870 and GT300 really has more parallels to R600? Which one's the late one in all this? GT300 seems to be quite a way off, at least with a late 2009/early 2010 release, and RV870 coming within the month. Then which card's the one that has the complex, exciting but questionable new architecture? Again, GT300 seems to win this with its 'cGPU' oriented MIMD architecture which somewhat reminds me of ATi's move with its VLIW architecture. Sure the thing will be amazing at general purpose parallel applicatioins, but will a traditional graphics pipeline with programmable shaders in today's state really take advantage of a MIMD architecture? Sure it'll be great looking onwards - by which time there will be new cards out, but for more contemporary games the gains may not be that huge. That, again, sounds a lot like what people were saying about R600 shortly after release.

I could be wrong, but it's just a bit of food for thought.

Final8y · 14 Sep 2009 at 08:54

Lightnix said:
Rather. Also I'd have to say, which card between RV870 and GT300 really has more parallels to R600? Which one's the late one in all this? GT300 seems to be quite a way off, at least with a late 2009/early 2010 release, and RV870 coming within the month. Then which card's the one that has the complex, exciting but questionable new architecture? Again, GT300 seems to win this with its 'cGPU' oriented MIMD architecture which somewhat reminds me of ATi's move with its VLIW architecture. Sure the thing will be amazing at general purpose parallel applicatioins, but will a traditional graphics pipeline with programmable shaders in today's state really take advantage of a MIMD architecture? Sure it'll be great looking onwards - by which time there will be new cards out, but for more contemporary games the gains may not be that huge. That, again, sounds a lot like what people were saying about R600 shortly after release.

I could be wrong, but it's just a bit of food for thought.

From what i have seen from the 4xxx line im sure the 5xxx line will drive my 30" 2560x1600 just fine. What is there to worry about, DX11 is secondary as far as i'm concerned.

Tejstar · 14 Sep 2009 at 10:10

From EXPreview.

SfnX · 14 Sep 2009 at 10:15

ye the power consumption is fantastic...i do hope they stay that way.
btw 2000 WOOOP
i can run 2 of the 5870s on my hiper 850w