Soldato
Hahaha, how come the artists don't agree? Even 50 cent said p2p is not harmfull at all.
Disgusting !
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Hahaha, how come the artists don't agree? Even 50 cent said p2p is not harmfull at all.
not even that, you only have to step into my workplace to see the healthy trade of media, im one of the youngest at 29 years young. I suspect its a simmilar story all over the world.....
Pretty much, no, infact all people I know have no problem with it.
is it right that an artist makes well under 10% of the money from record sales?
Or that the RIAA etc collect royaltys on behalf of artists and often never tell the artis in question?
ASi say i would much rather a commercial customisable on-line Tv system supported by adds, which probably could easily happen in it weren't for such organisations refusing to let anyone do it without massive crippling amounts of DRM which people don't want. there is no point in punishing the people who pay/ are watching it legally just to slow down those who will get it illegally.
You see this is the kind of ill informed unfounded information that people use to try and justify their dishonesty.
Please show us the documented details of where all... In fact lets even just say the majority of artists say it's OK to rip off their work for free.
Soldato
I find that impossible to believe, UK culture is not much different to ours, even when I had to be accompanied by the original buyer of a borked 8800GT card, when I was waiting for service @ the RMA dept. A 40 ish year old man admitted he just downloaded Vista. Every person I have to go visit with my parents has massive piles of cd's with burned music, games and films.
Even from the adults I can't seem to think of a single person not having at least a few copies of music, films, games or whatever. Perhaps the people you know don't like admitting it, but everybody I know has no problem with it. The only ones that don't do it, are the few ones that are scared it's illegal.
http://torrentfreak.com/50cent-file-sharing-doesnt-hurt-the-artists-071208/
Sorry, I don't get your point, how does any of that justify dishonestly ripping off someone else's work? If people could be trusted to not be dishonest there would be no need for DRM to discourage casual piracy
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I don't think any 'minor' band would be particuarly bothered about p2p, if anything it increases exposure. For a major band, it is obviously more problematic as people will download an album regardless of interest in the band.
As for 50 cent, I don't think the people who buy his records really represent the people who will use p2p..
As for 50 cent, I don't think the people who buy his records really represent the people who will use p2p..
Soldato
Thats exactly what I was saying, read it again, lol
Okay I apologize, sorry I'm just a bit blind in reading after not having slept for over 20 hours.
Well let's face it on the scale of things Holland is hardly a well known producer of the kind of software, films and music that people would want to rip off. It's just a case of "it doesn't effect our economy so it's OK", no one wants to rip off anything we produce anyway.
DRM doesnt discourage casual piracy, it merely annoys people who chose to pay for media.
Classic example, a guy who purchased a very expensive TV, only to discover that HDCP is not the same thing as high def, he was quite upset, and who can blame him.
Another example, my dad got an Ipod against my advice of a proper mp3 player, and he felt like smashing it up when he took it home and put a song on it, only to lose the hundreds I had previously put on it.
So that's one quote from a minor artist posted on a torrent site. You'll excuse me if I don't take that as proof of your statement that "the artists don't agree".
didn't say it justified anything, just that it's not right that an artist get's so little and the fact most support them selves on concerts and merchandise not record sales, as they wouldn't get enough.
and no DRM does not discourage casual piracy, casual piracy occurs further down the line, casual piracy is the people who go on youtube and search the name of a tv show, or stage6 or other such places DRM is there to try and stop people from copying it, something that is virtually impossible as there are so many talented people ready to break it as soon as it comes out, at which point it sops being an inconvenience to pirates, and simply discourages people from legitimately using it.
For example if they did make such an on line tv station they wouldn't do it as simple as youtube etc where you just watch you would have to install some bloated software that comes with tons of warning sof your a dirty rotten pirate we will get you. and puts people of watching it, the pirates will of course still rip it (can't really see causal pirates sitting there recording a stream, and breaking whatever they've used), cut the ad's then up load it to you tube stage 6 etc, where a lot of the people who would have watched the ads, will go and see it with far less hassle.
to stop casual piracy you have to make it easyer than to pirate.
Soldato
50 cent isn't minor, his sales are always high.
Holland produces some of the best house music on the planet.
DRM discourages casual piracy, mainly of the "I've bought a copy of Vista/Transformers/whatever i'll give a copy to all my mates a school" type.
As for the HDCP thing, what does DRM have to do with someone being stupid enough to buy "an expensive TV" assuming HDCP is Hi-Def, That's just being as ill informed as someone buying a HD-DVD player and expecting it to to play Blu-ray.
Not saying much is it...
Soldato
Also, with p2p, youtube, etc there is no such need as a record company that eats up 90% of the profit, an artist can spread it himself easely by making a quick webshop offering loseless quality FLAC files for 50 p or 320 kbit mp3's for 40 p ( just an example ).
Imo, as said b4, the whole way of distributing of media is not of this time and primitive, a lot of un-neccesary persons and methods are involved, the price can be much lowered by avoiding records company's altogether and so the artists make their own type of release system on the net.
Imo, as said b4, the whole way of distributing of media is not of this time and primitive, a lot of un-neccesary persons and methods are involved, the price can be much lowered by avoiding records company's altogether and so the artists make their own type of release system on the net.
HDCP is DRM