Disgusting !

mattyfez · 6 Jan 2008 at 14:40

Tefal said:
so your saying it would be ok to "steal but only occasionally?

The young apprentice, is learning the ways of the darkside, a few little
mp3's, goood, the force is strong within him....

Tefal · 6 Jan 2008 at 14:44

Moses99p said:
I don't think I avoided the question, it was more like you were making a point than asking a genuine question :\

you still haven't answered it.

Jet · 6 Jan 2008 at 14:45

Jokester said:
But why is it ridiculous? You're making use of someones hard work and they're not being compensated for it.

What have they lost by me illegally downloading a song, liking it, then buying the album?

Tefal · 6 Jan 2008 at 14:51

Moses99p said:
was it a genuine question or were you just being a arse? \o/

genuine question, due to the amount of comparisons between piracy and theft.

OzyOly · 6 Jan 2008 at 14:53

So what is happening with this guy? Has he just 'left' now?

Tefal · 6 Jan 2008 at 14:54

OzyOly said:
So what is happening with this guy? Has he just 'left' now?

he's suspended for swearing.

Tefal · 6 Jan 2008 at 14:56

once again you have not answered the question.

Have you thought about a career in politics?

Tefal · 6 Jan 2008 at 14:59

Moses99p said:
Well, you can say how it isn't "stealing" or whatever, but I think most people can see it is just wrong. Is it possible to have a poll asking if piracy is right or wrong?

Moses99p said:
I think theft is wrong. I realise what I do will be perceived as theft by people, probably due to the large number of people that download music to avoid paying for it.

Moses99p said:
To steal - "to take without the owner's consent."

I'd say taking intellectual property without consent is stealing...

interesting reversal there

Tefal · 6 Jan 2008 at 15:02

what where you say it's stealing when someone else does it then say it's not when you do?

mattyfez · 6 Jan 2008 at 15:04

Moses99p said:
I think theft is wrong. I realise what I do will be perceived as theft by people, probably due to the large number of people that download music to avoid paying for it. I download music to hear it for the first time then buy it, I personally can see a clear difference there.

yeh, the difference being you stole a few songs as opposed to many songs.

Tefal · 6 Jan 2008 at 15:07

Moses99p said:
the intent.

so your now trying to justify breaking the law by saying you had good intentions?

and also do you buy every song you steal(i think its fair to use this as you refer to piracy as this)?

mattyfez · 6 Jan 2008 at 15:10

What if you stole a song that you didnt like, songs cant be undownloaded, you have still commited a "crime"

manjuice · 6 Jan 2008 at 15:12

When people say, 'if you can't afford it, don't buy/steal it'.

Then it wouldn't make any difference if the person downloaded it illegally because they wouldn't have paid for it in the first place...?

benjo plz. · 6 Jan 2008 at 15:15

mattyfez said:
@moses...

moses saw a burning bush, not a tumbleweed

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Tefal · 6 Jan 2008 at 15:16

Phnom_Penh said:
moses saw a burning bush, not a tumbleweed .

mosses appears to have converted too

Mark A · 6 Jan 2008 at 15:16

What i don't understand is why do groups like Razor1911 crack games and offer them for download?. I cant see how they profit from it?. The wiki link posted in this thread says one of the group were jailed for it then shortly after his release they started again, why :confused:

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Tefal · 6 Jan 2008 at 15:20

Mark A said:
What i don't understand is why do groups like Razor1911 crack games and offer them for download?. I cant see how they profit from it?. The wiki link posted in this thread says one of the group were jailed for it then shortly after his release they started again, why .

challenge and some do profit, ie those that make trainers etc that are sold on pay membership sites before going public.

Hellsmk2 · 6 Jan 2008 at 15:20

Tefal said:
what where you say it's stealing when someone else does it then say it's not when you do?

I've read this sentence several times and I cannot translate it at all. It really hurts my brain.

Tefal · 6 Jan 2008 at 15:21

Moses99p said:
absolutely not, my view hasn't changed on this topic for a long time. \o/

Mosses is something else btw, I remember a troll on another forum who used to call me that

typo, and you called it stealing earlier on and accused the people of trying to justify stealing by saying the exact things you are now.

So your own question from before then.

Do you think piracy is acceptable, yes or no?

mattyfez · 6 Jan 2008 at 15:24

Mark A said:
What i don't understand is why do groups like Razor1911 crack games and offer them for download?. I cant see how they profit from it?. The wiki link posted in this thread says one of the group were jailed for it then shortly after his release they started again, why .

Because its somthing they are passionate about, I guess....and they are worshiped like gods lol.

Moses is in denial, I think.....he's going to buy that album, that is, untill he sees his gas bill, and hes already overdrawn.....one album wont hurt out of all those millions....who would ever know?