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0h_no_not_again · 4 Jan 2023 at 10:45

I welcome the DLSS/FSR upscaling revolution. It is analogous to the magic that has been worked to make games look as good as they do without supercomputers. Like how things are rendered is mathematical magic, so why not upscale. It makes perfect sense.

Where I'm not super keen is frame interpolation. There were some fantastic strides at frame generation in the VR space (ASW, etc), i.e. limited frame prediction based on motion vectors and head pose changes, however DLSS3.0 is interpolation. It inserts a frame between two known frames, which in a real-time context is just meh. Maybe DLSS3.0 will improve dramatically and I'll be an adopter, but I kinda doubt it...

I'll be very much onboard when DLSS 4.0 attempts frame generation, similar to ASW, but using ML techniques. Have a stall in your pipeline? No worries, just generate a frame and away you go.

chris85oc · 4 Jan 2023 at 10:54

JediFragger said:
Think we got a buyer right here folks!!!

Nope, most likely gonna wait for the 5xxx series. Prices are whack.

brostradamus · 4 Jan 2023 at 10:55

0h_no_not_again said:
I welcome the DLSS/FSR upscaling revolution. It is analogous to the magic that has been worked to make games look as good as they do without supercomputers. Like how things are rendered is mathematical magic, so why not upscale. It makes perfect sense.

Where I'm not super keen is frame interpolation. There were some fantastic strides at frame generation in the VR space (ASW, etc), i.e. limited frame prediction based on motion vectors and head pose changes, however DLSS3.0 is interpolation. It inserts a frame between two known frames, which in a real-time context is just meh. Maybe DLSS3.0 will improve dramatically and I'll be an adopter, but I kinda doubt it...

I'll be very much onboard when DLSS 4.0 attempts frame generation, similar to ASW, but using ML techniques. Have a stall in your pipeline? No worries, just generate a frame and away you go.

It's using ml techniques for frame gen.. it's a highly non-linear interpolator. The next big shift is going to be the ability to predict early rejection using ml models so that instructions that have low probability of impacting the final pixel will be discarded at a much earlier stage..

Even the current iteration of dlss is praiseworthy because it ups energy efficiency to an altogether different tier

JediFragger · 4 Jan 2023 at 12:11

chris85oc said:
Nope, most likely gonna wait for the 5xxx series. Prices are whack.

FE in stock for £1599, buy that it's pretty decent.

Dicehunter · 4 Jan 2023 at 12:53

An ETA for the DLSS3 update for CP2077 and TW3 would have been nice.

Curlyriff said:
The fixes to how it looks seem reasonable but the latency is the issue. The extra FPS is a waste if they haven't fixed that?

I thought so too before I actually tried it but it makes a big difference to the feel of a game in Spiderman, MSFS and TW3.

Kelt · 4 Jan 2023 at 16:54

JediFragger said:
FE in stock for £1599, buy that it's pretty decent.

Telling that it's still in stock, hours later.

jrodga2k5 · 4 Jan 2023 at 16:58

Kelt said:
Telling that it's still in stock, hours later.

Again I don't understand why things being in stock is an issue :cry:

The 4090 actually hasn't had a drop for a good while so it could be the case that stock is fairly decent this time around and also the scalpers can't make money on them so that avenue is closed. Could it be that things are returning to being somewhat normal with stock? Heaven forbid.

Nexus18 · 4 Jan 2023 at 17:01

jrodga2k5 said:
Again I don't understand why things being in stock is an issue The 4090 actually hasn't had a drop for a good while so it could be the case that stock is fairly decent this time around and also the scalpers can't make money on them so that avenue is closed. Could it be that things are returning to being somewhat normal with stock? Heaven forbid.

Yup seems that not only do nvidia and amd think we are still in mining craze, no inflation/cost of living crisis, covid lockdown but also the customers think the same too :cry:

PS 5 and xbox one are still in stock, they must be selling awfully too

jrodga2k5 · 4 Jan 2023 at 17:04

Nexus18 said:
Yup seems that not only do nvidia and amd think we are still in mining craze, no inflation/cost of living crisis, covid lockdown but also the customers think the same too

PS 5 and xbox one are still in stock, they must be selling awfully too

Imagine being able to buy your choice of computer component or console?!

Kelt · 4 Jan 2023 at 17:12

jrodga2k5 said:
Imagine being able to buy your choice of computer component or console?!

Shouldn't be allowed!

Alt0153 · 4 Jan 2023 at 17:13

Kelt said:
Shouldn't be allowed!

nvidia furiously taking notes

Kelt · 4 Jan 2023 at 17:15

Alt0153 said:
nvidia furiously taking notes

They already wrote the rule book!

Dave2150 · 4 Jan 2023 at 17:20

chris85oc said:
Nope, most likely gonna wait for the 5xxx series. Prices are whack.

? The 5000 series will likely release in 2 years. We'll have gone through 2 years of inflation by then, meaning the prices will be even higher. Add £200 at least for the 5070, 5080 and 5090 vs the 4000 series.

Calin Banc · 4 Jan 2023 at 18:54

Dave2150 said:
? The 5000 series will likely release in 2 years. We'll have gone through 2 years of inflation by then, meaning the prices will be even higher. Add £200 at least for the 5070, 5080 and 5090 vs the 4000 series.

And put at the end a "=> The Death Of PC Gaming as we know it". Those are not sustainable prices. Actually even current ones aren't.

Alt0153 · 4 Jan 2023 at 18:57

Calin Banc said:
And put at the end a "=> The Death Of PC Gaming as we know it". Those are not sustainable prices. Actually even current ones aren't.

depends how many cards they want to sell

Grim5 · 4 Jan 2023 at 20:26

Nexus18 said:
Yup seems that not only do nvidia and amd think we are still in mining craze, no inflation/cost of living crisis, covid lockdown but also the customers think the same too

PS 5 and xbox one are still in stock, they must be selling awfully too

Maybe it's cause interest rates have doubled
Maybe it's cause food is up 15%
Maybe it's cause salaries haven't kept up

Maybe people aren't bothered with gaming when they can't even afford food, petrol and paying their rent

markoboyo11 · 4 Jan 2023 at 22:03

varkanoid said:
Surprised nobody has got DLSS3 running yet on previous generations. Its meant to work just not as good due to lack of hardware configuration.

Nobody wants it on 4000 series never mind trying to get it running on anything else.

Dicehunter · 5 Jan 2023 at 01:09

markoboyo11 said:
Nobody wants it on 4000 series never mind trying to get it running on anything else.

I've finally seen ghosts everyone, The 4090 owners thread is officially made up of spectres as they are all no body, All the user made videos on YouTube ? Goblins ! All the user made posts on Reddit ? Gremlins !

Bizarre · 5 Jan 2023 at 01:59

Dicehunter said:
I've finally seen ghosts everyone, The 4090 owners thread is officially made up of spectres as they are all no body, All the user made videos on YouTube ? Goblins ! All the user made posts on Reddit ? Gremlins !

I don't think he's saying nobody wants 4090's, more so that nobody wants DLSS 3.0... he's wrong either way.

Dicehunter · 5 Jan 2023 at 02:11

Bizarre said:
I don't think he's saying nobody wants 4090's, more so that nobody wants DLSS 3.0... he's wrong either way.

I read it pre morning coffee, My excuse is valid..........