Caporegime
By now you would expect 12GB would be normal on entry level dGPUs. We had 6GB/8GB sub £300 cards in 2016.
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Do AMD provide any benefit to the retail GPU segment.
By now you would expect 12GB would be normal on entry level dGPUs. We had 6GB/8GB sub £300 cards in 2016.
But in the end, it is sad that people are not interested by amd cards.
In fact most people absolutly don't know that exept the 4090 (wich is not a card for gaming anyway) for each nvidia card that exist there is an alternative in amd world, with a better performance per dollard and more vram and way better drivers
But people just don't want radeon. For pure prestige reasons i believe.
In fact most people absolutly don't know that exept the 4090 (wich is not a card for gaming anyway) for each nvidia card that exist there is an alternative in amd world, with a better performance per dollard and more vram and way better drivers
But people just don't want radeon. For pure prestige reasons i believe.
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Amd not a viable alternative for those who want ray tracing, reliable drivers and production workBut in the end, it is sad that people are not interested by amd cards.
In fact most people absolutly don't know that exept the 4090 (wich is not a card for gaming anyway) for each nvidia card that exist there is an alternative in amd world, with a better performance per dollard and more vram and way better drivers
But people just don't want radeon. For pure prestige reasons i believe.
Those people are stil the minority and the drivers are no longer an issue.
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Caporegime
People also make blanket statements too. In the US, UK, Germany, Australia, etc the pricing of Nvidia Ampere cards is now totally out of whack with the AMD cards. I remember seeing RX6800 16GB cards for under $500 in the US, so were cheaper than many RTX3070 8GB cards!
The hilarious thing is the RTX3050 and RTX3060 are going up against AMD cards which are upto 50% faster in rasterised performance:
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The RX6700XT is frequently on deal for £350 or even less. The RX6650XT, RX6600 and A750 are all well under £300. So if that level of performance advantage,lower pricing,etc is not enough then I suppose it's not viable for AMD and Intel to bother with PCMR.
Even the so called RT advantage in the most Nvidia biased games can amount to not much, because the difference ends up being so small, or the performance is rubbish on the nvidia cards under £400 even if the win is bigger. So in the end you need to turn down settings anyway and the AMD and Intel cards hold their own. It was the same with the tessellation wars,especially with the cheaper Nvidia cards. It shows how people defiantly make statements like Apple uberfans making defiant statements about Android and Windows.
The drivers thing was even touted 20 years ago when people bought the Nvidia FX over the ATI 9000 series to run DX9 games like HL2. Yet the FX DX9 performance was so horrible the Nvidia fans were blaming the developers, ATI, etc not Nvidia for the useless hardware and drivers.
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Yes but most nvidia cards are not viable for raytracing too ! (You need at least 4070TI for RT, and 7900Xt is as good as it in RT)
My 7900Xt runs Cynberpunk une ultra RT, thats good for me
And the reality is that AMD drivers, are way better and have less problems that nvidia's
For production work surely nvidia are better, but amd is better for pure gaming
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Honestly a 6950XT is starting to look like a good deal.
Barely above 600€ and enough performance to play RT@1080p plus awesome raster.
It's likely as good as a 7800XT is going to be and likely better built as it was a top of the line card.
What do the resident AMD guys think about it?
Barely above 600€ and enough performance to play RT@1080p plus awesome raster.
It's likely as good as a 7800XT is going to be and likely better built as it was a top of the line card.
What do the resident AMD guys think about it?
Having just bought a 6950XT I'm very pleased so far. If you can get a good deal it runs 1440p so easily as I have it capped below my 144Hz max refresh rate. They are big though but seems fine on my 750W Seasonic.
My use case is 1080p/75 with the occasional VSR to 1440p.
I currently have a RX 6600 and it chews through raster on everything I play.
Yeah at the moment I am leaning to 6950xt at £620 or less or the 7900xt at £750 or less. Both seem better value than Nvidia current pricing.
But will likely wait another few months to see if prices drop any further, or if the 7800 is interesting.
It's all good but the only drawback is that it's power hungry. more than 4070.
It's an acceptable tradeoff imho.
Soldato
But in the end, it is sad that people are not interested by amd cards.
In fact most people absolutly don't know that exept the 4090 (wich is not a card for gaming anyway) for each nvidia card that exist there is an alternative in amd world, with a better performance per dollard and more vram and way better drivers
But people just don't want radeon. For pure prestige reasons i believe.
People are not 'not interested' in AMD cards.
The problem is that AMD's releases are all later than NVidia's, and then not beating them in performance or price. How is that an offering that you'd hold on to your cash for?
Why is a 4090 not a gaming card - games are more and more demanding especially 4K/VR stuff and sims like MSFS where you want really high fidelity, almost photo-realism ideally. AMD don't have a competitor there so how can people buy it even if they wanted to.
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Soldato
I don't think you're wrong, brand preference is a strong motivating factor for a lot of people. That said I think AMD is a long way behind Nvidia in terms of value adds. Like Nvidia leads in upscaling, RT and GPGPU/productivity. AMD offers more VRAM but that's about it. Like if you're purely interested in native rasterisation and the best value for that use case then AMD makes sense but many people are wanting more.But in the end, it is sad that people are not interested by amd cards.
In fact most people absolutly don't know that exept the 4090 (wich is not a card for gaming anyway) for each nvidia card that exist there is an alternative in amd world, with a better performance per dollard and more vram and way better drivers
But people just don't want radeon. For pure prestige reasons i believe.
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If AMD's FSR3 is no worse than DLSS3 would that put an end to Nvidia's perpetual gotcha?
Soldato
Comparisons I've seen seem to suggest DLSS2 often has better IQ than FSR2 so it sounds like there's work to do there as well but happy to be corrected on this.
Soldato
Not so, as I've shown with mine, a quick undervolt and you'll be pulling ~200w. Same as the 4070 FE.
A 4090 this gen is nothing more than a gaming card that really should have been the 4080ti, you can't even class it as a semi pro card anymore with the NVLINK removed compared to the 3090/ti cards that were a pro card without titan drivers for people that didn't need them.
Sadly this gens 90 class card is another card with reduced features and mis-sold as a 4090 and really nothing more than what a 4080ti should have been. Then you have people claiming it's a good card for the money.. even with the $100 increase in USA and £200 increase in UK from the 3090 FE for the 4090 FE.. How people are easily fooled by a name on a product.
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FSR3, frame generation.