Do we really need a 5090 ?

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High end users will pay, anyway. Considering the prices for everything else, people who can afford, will happily pay. Restaurants, pints, shows, etc. No cheap entertainment anymore.
Not trying to justify GPU prices, but as 4K panels aren’t mainly poor 60Hz, OLED and other technologies, together with faster response panels, many will search for a faster GPU. Not a 5090, but something on pair with the actual high end generation.
Was wondering the other day when I saw a dual UHD panel. Must be quite demanding GPU wise.
Personally, I don’t really care for RT or upscaling, mainly because I still using a Dell S2721DGF, paired with the infamous 4080. I don’t play competitive games. Mostly single player games. My MO is crack ultra or as high as possible native resolution and that’s it.
Was considering a 4K monitor, something with “real” HDR, then such extra features would be nice, but at the moment, I didn’t bother yet.
Let’s hope multiple GPUs don’t becomes a thing like back in the PhysX era
Just imagine some dual high end GPU and one tier lower GpU just for AI or RT.

 

[Amatsubu]

What? We need it, obviously.

How else are those of us who would think twice before dropping 1500+ quid on a GPU going to grab a 4090 at a price closer to its actual value?

A 5090 is inevitable, just as the fact that Jensen is going to price the rest of the lineup so high that'll seem like good value.

The more you buy, baybee

 

[Nexus18]

Unreal engine 5 and path tracing games show that we do...

 

[Rroff]

Someone claimed yesterday that 4090 was good value, it just shows how easily people can be manipulated just by making other products like the 4080 even worse.

I dunno about good value but it is actually decently specced and not that far off the max silicon. Ultimately people will pay top price for the best. In this day and age £1500 isn't that bad for high end electronics - they could have doubled that and still sold most of the ones they have, where it doesn't work is second best and the more mainstream market.

 

[Apex]

I dunno about good value but it is actually decently specced and not that far off the max silicon. Ultimately people will pay top price for the best. In this day and age £1500 isn't that bad for high end electronics - they could have doubled that and still sold most of the ones they have, where it doesn't work is second best and the more mainstream market.

How much were the 2080ti and the 3090?

 

[Zefan]

How much were the 2080ti and the 3090?

Inflation adjusted:

2080ti: ~£1350
3090: ~£1700

 

[nomadd]

Is there a more empty phrase in gaming than "next gen"?

Yes: The more you buy the more you save.

 

[ooStevo]

Yes otherwise we get lazy Nvidia. No one wants lazy Nvidia.

The 4060Ti is bad enough.

Look back at the 8800 GTX, amazing card but there was no real competition, so they released it again as the 9800 GTX with a die shrink, then again as the GTS 250…

Yes I remember,it was'nt until the HD3870,and then the 4870/5870 that ATI was beating Nvidia. Pity they fluffed the HD6*** series .

 

[rare]

Pity they fluffed the HD6*** series .

Came back pretty hard with the 7000 series though!

 

[Freddie1980]

I'm more concerned if the price to performance metrics move favourably which going by the current gen isn't a given.

 

[Dave2150]

If the rumours are to be believed then the 5090 is supposed to be in the region of 70% faster than the 4090 which is already crazy fast.

OK if you're doing CUDA heavy tasks but in reality how many on this forum have that workflow.

For gaming / casual use, are you really going to see a marked improvement in you experience without also upgrading your entire PC eco-system

Have you not used the 4090 in your signature at 4k? It crawls to sub 60 fps in some games, with RT enabled. Thus a 5090 would be fully utilized in video games at 4k and would enable more games to be played without DLSS.

Also, are you seriously suggesting GPU manufactures stop advancing from this point, as you bought a 4090 and want it to be relevant for longer? I received my 4090 on release day (13th October) full well knowing it would be replaced by a 5090 in 2 years which would be at least 50% faster. It's how technology and hardware work.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Yes we do - it is the only way we get faster mainstream cards.

 

[nomadd]

Yes we do - it is the only way we get faster mainstream cards.

..except half a 5090 will no doubt be £1000+

 

[ooStevo]

Came back pretty hard with the 7000 series though!

Yeah they did. But they came out severely under clocked. People were going from 825mhz to 1.2ghz without breaking a sweat if I recall correctly. AMD left so much performance on the table.

 

[TNA]

If the rumours are to be believed then the 5090 is supposed to be in the region of 70% faster than the 4090 which is already crazy fast.

OK if you're doing CUDA heavy tasks but in reality how many on this forum have that workflow.

For gaming / casual use, are you really going to see a marked improvement in you experience without also upgrading your entire PC eco-system

Let me ask you a question. Are games graphics indistinguible from real life? If the answer is no, then yes, we will need a 5090, 6090, 7090, 8090, 9090.......

4090 won't even be anything special in 2 generations time anyway. It looks awesome now like the Titan did back on the day. Look at the Titan now

 

[wunkley]

Let me ask you a question. Are games graphics indistinguible from real life? If the answer is no, then yes, we will need a 5090, 6090, 7090, 8090, 9090.......

4090 won't even be anything special in 2 generations time anyway. It looks awesome now like the Titan did back on the day. Look at the Titan now

Yep, some very short memories on here. 'Twas ever thus. In 2 or 3 years time you wouldn't even **** on a 4090

 

[eggbert]

We need a 5090 so I can afford a used 4090

 

[mrk]

It will be necessary for path tracing at 4K without the input latency that the 4090 has when doing it currently. Contrary to online opinions, if you can't get a baseline 60fps minimum before enabling frame gen, then the resulting experience may have the smoothness of 100fps or whatever, but the input latency will be a shade above that of a game rendering below 60fps and there isn't much AMD ANti-lag or Reflex can do to fix that.

Other than that, a 4090 is going to remain top dog for everything for many years.

4090 won't even be anything special in 2 generations time anyway. It looks awesome now like the Titan did back on the day. Look at the Titan now

The Titan had cards that were more powerful and cost less not long after it released though? It's like the £2000 3090 Ti, an utterly pointless halo card since the 3090 existed and was only a fraction slower, and then the 3080 Ti existed which was only 2% slower than a 3090 whilst being ~£1000 cheaper than a 3090 Ti at launch.

The 4090 has had no equal all this time and that will remain so long into 2025.

 

[TNA]

The Titan had cards that were more powerful and cost less not long after it released though? It's like the £2000 3090 Ti, an utterly pointless halo card since the 3090 existed and was only a fraction slower, and then the 3080 Ti existed which was only 2% slower than a 3090 whilst being ~£1000 cheaper than a 3090 Ti at launch.

The 4090 has had no equal all this time and that will remain so long into 2025.

My point stands. The card won't be anything special in 2 gens time

Will probably be the performance you get from a 6060 Ti or something

 

[arknor]

Unreal engine 5 and path tracing games show that we do...

phantom liberty runs fine with path tracing.

Whats the next game that will push a 4090? probably nothing for years will be as demanding as cyberpunk..

not counting crap like starfield