Do you agree, something massive is about to happen ?

Glaucus · 28 Sep 2009 at 21:55

dirtydog said:
The black boxes were all destroyed

Yet the passport of one of the hijackers managed to find its way down to street level entirely intact

And people believe this garbage.

rofl comparing heavy objects to light objects. Mmm oranges and apples.

semi-pro waster · 28 Sep 2009 at 21:57

dirtydog said:
Numerous demolition experts saying it, for a start.

And numerous demolitions experts say it did happen as the official explanation gives, how do we settle this? We can't exactly play Top Trumps with demolition experts although doing that is about as likely to reach consensus as what is almost certain to follow in this thread.

SexyGreyFox · 28 Sep 2009 at 21:58

dirtydog said:
Does anyone still think 9/11 wasn't an inside job?

Me - 1 million %.

100s (maybe 1000s) of people could not keep a secret that big besides I saw 2 hijacked airplanes fly into the Twin Towers and all those immigrants who you hate so much celebrate what they did on 9/11.

dirtydog · 28 Sep 2009 at 21:58

AcidHell2 said:
rofl comparing heavy objects to light objects. Mmm oranges and apples.

Those planes seemed to create quite a fireball... yet a little paper passport managed to survive that and fall a thousand feet to the street below, intact.

And you think WE are the ones who believe silly conspiracy theories?

dirtydog · 28 Sep 2009 at 21:59

dmpoole said:
Me - 1 million %.

100s (maybe 1000s) of people could not keep a secret that big besides I saw 2 hijacked airplanes fly into the Twin Towers and all those immigrants who you hate so much celebrate what they did on 9/11.

Two planes hit the twin towers, that is undeniable.

The rest is in question.

Glaucus · 28 Sep 2009 at 21:59

dirtydog said:
Those planes seemed to create quite a fireball... yet a little paper passport managed to survive that and fall a thousand feet to the street below, intact.

This happens all the time in explosives and bombing. Light weight objects can be carried on eh shock wave. hey do not reach high temperatures and do not stay in the hot blast zone long enough.
You can look at the pentagon for evidence of this.

Tefal · 28 Sep 2009 at 22:02

dirtydog said:
Those planes seemed to create quite a fireball... yet a little paper passport managed to survive that and fall a thousand feet to the street below, intact.

And you think WE are the ones who believe silly conspiracy theories?

happens fairly often

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8151327.stm

there you go about 5 seconds into the video.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/07/15/iran.plane.crash/index.html

mages of the crash site show a smoldering crater scattered with charred pieces of the plane and tattered passports.

Plane was totally destroyed on impact.

quite a few passports survived.

Or are Iran in on this too?

dangerstat · 28 Sep 2009 at 22:03

dirtydog said:
Two planes hit the twin towers, that is undeniable.

The rest is in question.

dirtydog - quick question so if you believe 9/11 was a "consirparcy" do you believe 7/7 and the madrid bombings where a consirpacy also?

JUMPURS · 28 Sep 2009 at 22:10

AcidHell2 said:
seeing as you like youtube videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L978nIT-AY4&feature=related

Have your

back.

I'll see your home made you tube video and raise you CBS news and a boeing spokeswoman.

Researchers have closely studied videos, sound recordings and radar to estimate how fast the two jetliners were moving. Studies show that both planes were traveling well over the federal limits for altitudes below 10,000 feet, The Times said.

The second plane was flying so fast that it was in danger of breaking up in the air as it approached the south tower, Boeing spokeswoman Liz Verdier told the Times.

“These guys exceeded even the emergency dive speed,” Verdier said. “It's off the chart.”

stinka · 28 Sep 2009 at 22:13

JUMPURS said:
Have your back.

I'll see your home made you tube video and raise you CBS news and a boeing spokeswoman.

they probably had military developed radio controlled planes, using homing beacons, combined with miniature nuclear devices to bring the towers down

THERE, IVE SAID IT

Jokester · 28 Sep 2009 at 22:13

But not impossible?

SexyGreyFox · 28 Sep 2009 at 22:15

stinka said:
What about the supposed phone calls from 35,000 feet, mobile phones dont work above 2000 or so feet

In 2000 I was flying back from Menorca and when we were told to take off our seatbelts I went into the bog and used my dodgy Phillips mobile.
The plane didn't crash either.

stinka · 28 Sep 2009 at 22:17

dmpoole said:
In 2000 I was flying back from Menorca and when we were told to take off our seatbelts I went into the bog and used my dodgy Phillips mobile.
The plane didn't crash either.

YES, BUT YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE ILLUMINATI, YA BALD ****

lemonkettaz · 28 Sep 2009 at 22:18

People knew something was going to happen.

But for some reason it went unknown. I highly doubt the US government backed or were behind an attack of that scale on it's own soil

SexyGreyFox · 28 Sep 2009 at 22:19

stinka said:
YES, BUT YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE ILLUMINATI, YA BALD ****

It's fat bald dwarf ****

Glaucus · 28 Sep 2009 at 22:22

JUMPURS said:
Have your back.

I'll see your home made you tube video and raise you CBS news and a boeing spokeswoman.

The second plane was flying so fast that it was in danger of breaking up in the air as it approached the south tower, Boeing spokeswoman Liz Verdier told the Times.

“These guys exceeded even the emergency dive speed,” Verdier said. “It's off the chart.”

Two studies have analyzed the speed of the planes, one by the Federal Aviation Administration in consultation with the National Transportation Safety Board and the other by Eduardo Kausel, a professor of civil and environmental engineering at Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

Both found that United Airlines Flight 175, which hit the south tower at 9:02 a.m., was traveling significantly faster than American Airlines Flight 11, which hit the north tower at approximately 8:46 a.m.

The government's calculations put the speed of the first plane at 494 mph, and the second at 586 mph. The MIT analysis determined the first plane was traveling 429 mph, and the second 537 mph,

So it might of been goign significantly slower. She also does not say the speed is imposable. So again how is it imposable?
The nist reports also calculator it at 545mph give or take 18mph page 31
http://wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_june04/appendixh.pdf

Tefal · 28 Sep 2009 at 22:24

stinka said:
they probably had military developed radio controlled planes, using homing beacons, combined with miniature nuclear devices to bring the towers down

THERE, IVE SAID IT

Radiation detectors are so sensitive now we can detect the decay of a single atom.

we could track the radiation left by the polonium used to kill Litvinenko.

Yet some how all the detectors used by all the fire departments in new York failed to detect a large gamma burst and the remaining radioactive material?

Remeber now that to build "miniature nuclear device" such as the W48 you need proportionally a lot more plutonium for the yield than you would in a conventional type of nuke because of the very inefficient way the supercritical mass is created.

The remains of something along the lines of a w48 would be incredibly obvious and would have set off every detector in the area.

stinka · 28 Sep 2009 at 22:27

Tefal said:
Radiation detectors are so sensitive now we can detect the decay of a single atom.

we could track the radiation left by the polonium used to kill Litvinenko.

Yet some how all the detectors used by all the fire department sin new York failed to detect a large gamma burst and the remaining radioactive material?

Remeber now that to build "miniature nuclear device" such as the W48 you need proportionally a lot more plutonium for the yield than you would in a conventional type of nuke because of the very inefficient way the supercritical mass is created.

The remains of something along the lines of a w48 would be incredibly obvious and would have set off every detector in the area.

yes but tbh, what do we know about what explosives the us military have nowadays, nuclear or god knows what

I mean, they have trianglaur plasma powered aircraft now

Radiation · 28 Sep 2009 at 22:28

Nice one turning the thread into a 9/11 conspiracy discussion, hasn't it been done to death already?

One thing though, does anyone on the forums think conspiracy's are impossible?

It's interesting how that word generates the response it does in people, like it's sinsister and impossible, anyone who questions the the majority's views is crazy and/or paranoid etc, two people getting together can conspire, groups, business and governments can and do have corrupt members, secret society's do exist and have members in positions of wealth and influence and no doubt their own agendas, such things are possible and real, 9/11 could have been done one way or another by a small group in government with the capability to do so for some outcome, does anyone deny such possibilities?

Glaucus · 28 Sep 2009 at 22:30

Radiation said:
One thing though, does anyone on the forums think conspiracy's are impossible?

of course not. However the evidence does not support the claims. They are also blatantly lying about many facts. Hence it's a conspiracy theory and is crazy.