seemingly at randomm maybe, but not really, imo.
it's just a case of different things often beyond your controll but in something elses controll coming togethor subconsciously.
Do you believe in fate?
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seemingly at randomm maybe, but not really, imo.
it's just a case of different things often beyond your controll but in something elses controll coming togethor subconsciously.
So you're saying theres a transdimensional connection there? Something outside our understanding connecting us?
no, not necessarily.
Give an example then.
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/e: to contribute, I believe there is fate, but this fate is not known by any one being, therefore as far as we are all concerned, there is no fate.
Very much the same way that if I knew all the physical factors involved in flipping a coin, I would be able to predict the outcome of the coinflip accurately every time.
It isn't knowing the future, it is knowing the facts.
If I somehow knew the whereabouts of every particle in this universe, and the current state of every particle in terms of how they interact with each other and what all their subsequent interactions would be, I'm sure I'd know everybody's fate
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Yantorsen I believe you are trying to place a logic and understanding into a system which does not require one. In short, you are baffling me.
Now you are just being silly. A roll of a dice is always going to have a result determined by many factors (how it bounces, the speed at which it was thrown etc). Just because there are reasons behind the result does not mean that the result produced was not done so randomly!Yantorsen said:
Have you not met Yantorsen before?
It entirely depends on your definition of the word 'fate'. In the traditional sense of the word, that things come together because they're meant to -- no I don't believe in fate. Things happen as a result of action and reaction, not because of some divine chess-board in which we're all simply pawns. There is no higher force guiding us, there is no such thing as a 'soul-mate'. All these things are simply manifestions, fabrications if you will of man's innate desire to comprehend or place reason. The way our brains are wired means we make such connections when we see them, and in such a context it is easy to understand why the concept of 'fate' came about, but 'fate' only exists in the sense that every action causes a reaction within the realms of probability.
I could go out today and bump into an ex girlfriend and suddenly re-kindle an old flame, but this is by no means 'fate' -- it is simply compatibility, within reduced probability and coincidence.
Being a Christian is obviously going to affect his views...
Generally, I find the two go hand in hand.
Must be fate.
I'm not being silly, a totally random situation doesn't exsist, it's always caused by something, unless you can give me an example otherwise?
that doesn't have much to do with fate, just that luck, or seemingly random success in a given subject, is not really luck, but caused by other factors in it's design.
To be 'random', something has to be without explicit aim, reason or pattern. For you to suggest that a 'totally random' situation doesn't exist, assumes that you feel that everything has a purpose.
Don't confuse self-determination with indifferent matter.
If I were to extend your logic, one may well assume that were it not for consciousness, everything would cease to be.
But cause isn't always self-determined.