Doctor Who
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In retrospect Tennant and Rose were a partnership ahead of their time with good woke credentials, that parternship element has gone out the window with the new, famous five strategy; T &R were scripted each with a balance of intelligence, presonality strengths.
As a 'Doctor light' episode, Blink is right up there as one of the best of the new who stuff. I think it's fantastic.
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In what sense? If a series has been going for 10 series and suddenly its ratings drop in the subsequent 2 then I don't understand what else it can mean other than the fans of the show are not enjoying it any more.
I mean it's just some review by some people. It isn't some kind of official rating system.
Some may say that the viewers rating are instantly lower as many people took a dislike to the Doctor being female so ratings are likely to have decreased just for that.
Some may say that the viewers rating are instantly lower as many people took a dislike to the Doctor being female so ratings are likely to have decreased just for that.
Caporegime
And some will give every episode 10/10 just to spite/counteract those people and because anything that pushes an agenda they support will automatically be amazing in their eyes. They have shown this on american campuses with Trump vs Sanders who is the lefts darling over there. When you tell them a policy is from Bernie and ask "is this a good policy" they love it, best thing ever. Same for Trump policies, awful, mans pure evil. When you tell them that actually the first one was a Trump policy and the second the Bernie ones their brains can't think of anything to say because they have no ability to think critically on these issues. Its always us vs them and your guy is amazing and theirs is evil.
In my experience its the "woke" reviewers that push scores up or down more than the "haters". Most people who aren't woke don't have an agenda. There are plenty of TV shows that have some obvious policical agenda and still manage to be good shows because thats not their prime focus. When everything else is fine or good you just ignore that. There are even (shock horror) some shows that just seamlessly integrate these themes without it being clunky and jarring.
Doctor who is reviewing poorly because people don't think its good. People have stopped watching it because they don't think its good. This is of course the "woke" way. You ignore any criticism because the only reason people don't like your show is obviously that they aren't enlightened enough to appreciate what you are doing and the issues you are address. If this wasn't on the BBC it would be cancelled for poor ratings and viewer figures.
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Agree. IMDB isn't an official thing. But then again, what is these days? At the very least, it's a good indicator of how things went.
This is clearly not true. Otherwise the poor stories with Tennant wouldn't have dipped so low (7.0- scores) in the IMDB ratings and Jodie having one or two that stood out a bit better (7.0+ scores). And if we look back over the episodes that have poorer ratings at IMDB, it's clearly the ones that WERE poor; Love and Monsters, Fear Her, Evolution of the Darleks, The Lazarus Experiment, Curse of the Black Spot, Kill the Moon, In the Forest of the Night, and Sleep No More. Compared to the rest in their respective seasons, these were clearly below the rest and not the worst of a good selection.
Now if we look at Jodies episodes, we see its Rosa, Fugitive of the Judoon and The Haunting of Villa Diodati. Out of their respective seasons, these were definitely more of the highlights, ESPECIALLY Fugitive of the Judoon, where Jo Martin upstaged poor Jodie and seemed MORE like the Doctor than she does. If it really WAS about the Doctor being a woman that screwed the ratings, Jo Martins Doctor wouldn't be so well received, and that episode (Fugitive of the Judoon) wouldn't be the highest rating at IMDB for the seasons that Jodie has been maining at.
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Even new who had managed that well in the past, rewatching the Tenant era with the kids and there are still issues addressed but they are always subtle but yet self explanatory enough that they don't need giant immersion breaking explanation (as happens in the latest couple of seasons)
Agreed. Who is not 1940s government advisory films about decorum and social behaviour.
it should have never been and its current show runner’s deliberate attempt to steer it that way has taken so much of what people love about Who away from the show. If Chibnall wants to be the white messiah to bring about social justice to all then good for him, and he should go and start a shown literally called “justice for all” not hijack any show he s got his fingers in and turn them into his socio-political propaganda vehicles.
It means people aren't enjoying the show but if you dont believe the IMDB reviews just look at the viewing figures which have fallen dramatically.
I enjoyed the episode, one of the better episodes since JW took over - although that isn't saying much. Maybe as she wasn't in it much, then maybe that why this was better!
I hate the 'fam' thing and i hate that JW has no range with the Doctor, every line is delivered at a 100mph and with sharp breaths (for some reason!)
I do think JW is a great actor, but the way she has played this role and the fact that the stories have actually been crap, it's time for her to move on. New writers and a new Doctor please!
Also, John Bishop? Why? We don't need celebrity companions - although Bille P/Rose was awesome. But Rory and Amy etc, let the Doctor be the star.
I hate the 'fam' thing and i hate that JW has no range with the Doctor, every line is delivered at a 100mph and with sharp breaths (for some reason!)
I do think JW is a great actor, but the way she has played this role and the fact that the stories have actually been crap, it's time for her to move on. New writers and a new Doctor please!
Also, John Bishop? Why? We don't need celebrity companions - although Bille P/Rose was awesome. But Rory and Amy etc, let the Doctor be the star.
As above , I thought Amy and Rory , Rose, Martha etc were fantastic companions. Why do we have to have a 'fam' and now a cheeky scouser?
Why not have a companion from anywhere else in the galaxy? Get back to sci-fi instead of running around Sheffield
Why not have a companion from anywhere else in the galaxy? Get back to sci-fi instead of running around Sheffield
I get your view but I really don't think they are doing it as a way to boost viewers.
Bradley Walsh turned out to be the best of the recent companions.