Does anyone vote BNP if so why

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I think what wohoo was getting at was, everyone thinks their party is good, ie BNP voters will think the BNP are good when they really arent, and members of al queda will think that they are justified etc.
 
Originally posted by Jazz
"the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question"

This paragraph concerns me deeply, it is voluntary but why on earth would they start a scheme like that, dont u think if a person wanted to leave they could easily just walk out but obviously they dont and i can see the BNP forcing people out.

memphisto they are proven racists, the leader was with the nf for most of his life how much more proof do u want? Like said earlier a year ago Panorama showed the BNP chairman addressing a KKK rally in Texas, they care about white people and all others can drop dead and they wouldnt give a ****. Im starting to think this is the view of others here as well and the only reason i can think of is jealously :(

Jealousy? :confused: Please explain.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/programmes/2001/bnp_special/the_leader/default.stm Read about him here

Also u said earlier removing illegal immigrants will help save money, can u explain to me how getting rid of illegal immigrants will do this? Illegal immigrants get on with their lives and dont bother anyone

Do they not use up a valuable empty property, which are very scarce down here? Do they not use the health service?

I think most of their policies sound great tbh, but i also know they will never ever get near to achieving them and they are blatently racist

Their policies are what many people would like to see happen though. They cut through all the BS and say what most people think. And I say again - the policies are not racist. The people in the party may well be - just like many in the Conservatives are!

dirtydog they also support groups which take part in terrorizing non-white people e.g. nf, so what makes them different to the al qaeda(sp?) who are terrorizing white people

Al Queda terrorise people of all races, not just caucasians :confused:
 
Originally posted by Jazz
"the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question"

This paragraph concerns me deeply, it is voluntary but why on earth would they start a scheme like that, dont u think if a person wanted to leave they could easily just walk out but obviously they dont and i can see the BNP forcing people out.

memphisto they are proven racists, the leader was with the nf for most of his life how much more proof do u want? Like said earlier a year ago Panorama showed the BNP chairman addressing a KKK rally in Texas, they care about white people and all others can drop dead and they wouldnt give a ****. Im starting to think this is the view of others here as well and the only reason i can think of is jealously :(

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/programmes/2001/bnp_special/the_leader/default.stm Read about him here

Also u said earlier removing illegal immigrants will help save money, can u explain to me how getting rid of illegal immigrants will do this? Illegal immigrants get on with their lives and dont bother anyone

I think most of their policies sound great tbh, but i also know they will never ever get near to achieving them and they are blatently racist

dirtydog they also support groups which take part in terrorizing non-white people e.g. nf, so what makes them different to the al qaeda(sp?) who are terrorizing white people

"the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question"

I must have missed that. It is very disturbing indeed, basically what they are saying under that polite exterior is, "We will give you money to **** off back to where you came from". If that isn't getting rid of all non whites I don't know what is. Kanes is that what you were looking for?
 
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by removing illegal immigrants you save money through

1: Increased housing availability
2: Increased job Oppurtunities (i.e non illegals ar eneeded to fiil these roles)
3: increased tax contribution and reduction of levels of none illegal unemployed
4: Reduction in use of healthcare
5: reduction in use of Police
6: reduction in use of Fire Brigade
7: reduction in education costs (if they have children at schools)


the list goes on
 
Originally posted by dirtydog
Their policies are what many people would like to see happen though. They cut through all the BS and say what most people think. And I say again - the policies are not racist. The people in the party may well be - just like many in the Conservatives are!

Their policies are what every person in every country would want, and are totally unattainable.

Of course the policies they publicly show aren't racist. If they were then they would have been hounded into the ground. Why do you think they recently decided on their 'PR overhaul'? It's patently obvious they haven't changed at heart, they've just changed the window dressing. Each year they get more and more supporters, all who are involved in racial hatred.

And I say again - the policies are not racist. The people in the party may well be - just like many in the Conservatives are!

Lead. By. Example.

People that deep into racist hatred dont change, and they are leaders. Leaders should inspire and influence people by example, and going by their track record it doesn't really say much does it.

Dont get me wrong, i'm no PC lover and i would like to see changes to asylum and immigration problems, but the BNP aren't the solution and never will be.

Originally posted by memphisto
by removing illegal immigrants you save money through

1: Increased housing availability
2: Increased job Oppurtunities (i.e non illegals ar eneeded to fiil these roles)
3: increased tax contribution and reduction of levels of none illegal unemployed
4: Reduction in use of healthcare
5: reduction in use of Police
6: reduction in use of Fire Brigade
7: reduction in education costs (if they have children at schools)


the list goes on

Gurdas' quote isn't relating to illegal immigrants. It's talking about perfectly legal, tax paying, law abiding citizens. Oh sorry, but who weren't born here, or however the hell the BNP define a non immigrant. So that means people who may have been here, 20, 40, 60 years...
 
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Originally posted by At The Gates
Dont get me wrong, i'm no PC lover and i would like to see changes to asylum and immigration problems, but the BNP aren't the solution and never will be.

But what about voting for them in order to influence the main parties' policies in those areas?
 
Originally posted by At The Gates
Gurdas' quote isn't relating to illegal immigrants. It's talking about anyone who wasn't born here, or however the hell the BNP define a non immigrant. So that means people who may have been here, 20, 40, 60 years...

Jazz's quote was.
 
Originally posted by At The Gates

Gurdas' quote isn't relating to illegal immigrants. It's talking about perfectly legal, tax paying, law abiding citizens. Oh sorry, but who weren't born here, or however the hell the BNP define a non immigrant. So that means people who may have been here, 20, 40, 60 years...


Jazz was ;)

i was replying to a question he asked me.
 
Originally posted by dirtydog
Jazz's quote was.

:confused:

Jazzs' quote says:

"the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question".

And no, i'm afraid i wouldn't ever vote for the BNP in order to try and influence another parties policies.
 
Originally posted by Jazz

Also u said earlier removing illegal immigrants will help save money, can u explain to me how getting rid of illegal immigrants will do this? Illegal immigrants get on with their lives and dont bother anyone

that one is what i was responding to.
 
Originally posted by At The Gates
:confused:

Jazzs' quote says:

"the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question".

And no, i'm afraid i wouldn't ever vote for the BNP in order to try and influence another parties policies.

Originally posted by Jazz
Also u said earlier removing illegal immigrants will help save money, can u explain to me how getting rid of illegal immigrants will do this? Illegal immigrants get on with their lives and dont bother anyone
 
lol if the bnp ever got into power then firstly the health service would crumble, u would have a shortage of doctors that would cause the nhs to crumble... this is just one example.

london would not be cosmopolitan and as rich and vibrant a city as it is today etc etc
 
Originally posted by Termy
lol if the bnp ever got into power then firstly the health service would crumble, u would have a shortage of doctors that would cause the nhs to crumble... this is just one example.

london would not be cosmopolitan and as rich and vibrant a city as it is today etc etc

Cosmopolitan?

I must admit I do feel uncomfortable that SOME areas in Britain, whites are in the minority.

No doubt that means I'm racist :rolleyes:
 
Ot but hell dirtydog just read that Asylum the truth in yer sig and OH MY GOD !!

Most people know my views on this that visit SC etc but my word even I never thought things were that bad.

We need to stop this abuse of our system NOW !


sorry time to get back on topic.
 
Originally posted by memphisto
Ot but hell dirtydog just read that Asylum the truth in yer sig and OH MY GOD !!

Most people know my views on this that visit SC etc but my word even I never thought things were that bad.

We need to stop this abuse of our system NOW !


sorry time to get back on topic.

It's shocking isn't it. :(
 
<dirtydog> why does it worry u?, its the flipping 21st century, the world has been shrinking for years. granted britain has a very very rich and strong heritage with an amazing history and achievements but... transport around the world is amazing, it is easy to settle elsewhere.

it is a testament to the british people that they have a great government, law and policy and eductation system, health care system (free and excellent) that entices people to come and live here. the fact that great britain allows immigrants in and flourishes is amazing.

the fact that it concerns u that whites are a minority in some areas does make u are racist imho. that statement suggests that u have made a judgement just on the color of someones skin. for u all u know all the non whites may still be british, born n bred in this country... they may not be english but some of them will no doubt contribute a lot more to this country that u ever will. some wont but its not for u to judge. if u werent racist u would never have made that comment.

u may not be as racist as some but u are to being to some degree.

do u know the shortage of doctors that there are in this country? and do u know the % of dr's in this country who are foreign? a lot....

bah!
 
Jealousy? Please explain.

Every racist person ive met has come accross as very jealous of me and what my family have achieved.

Do they not use up a valuable empty property, which are very scarce down here? Do they not use the health service?

they also pay for the property and explain to me how they use the health service if they are illegal?

1: Increased housing availability

Do you know how many houses are available for rent these days, i opened my newspaper and there were at least 50 available properties and illegal immigrants usually live in crappy ol houses and pay a lot for it, the houses are usually very over-crowded and dirty, would the normal live there HELL NO they wouldnt

2: Increased job Oppurtunities (i.e non illegals ar eneeded to fiil these roles)

They also usually work with builders doing back breaking work for 10+ hours every day and getting £25-£30 a day, try using a kango to dig up foundations for one day and id be suprised if u can even get up in the morning. Not a loss in jobs though coz 99% of people dont want to do those jobs and want to live a easy live and make lots of money, id say a lot of people on the unemployment list are there coz they dont want to do hardwork :rolleyes:

3: increased tax contribution and reduction of levels of none illegal unemployed

Fair enough, doesnt cost u money though, it just means u dont make that money

4: Reduction in use of healthcare

Again u wanna explain? You think they are stupid enough to go to a hospital

5: reduction in use of Police

Again they usually stay to themselves and dont cause problems as they know they will get caught

6: reduction in use of Fire Brigade

Never heard of illegal immigrants torching places down

7: reduction in education costs (if they have children at schools)

They leave their families back home and come here to make money and send it home

btw im just pointing out they dont cost u money, i think u lot might be refering to Asylum seekers ;) Of course i want illegal immigrants out as well but what many dont realise is some of them are highly skilled people who would be usefull to this country and we should see what they are like before we decide to throw them out. bnp want all of them out and all legal non whites people out as well thats something i simply cannot agree with.

Yes your system is being abused and i know how much by thats why i always say keep the skilled ones and get rid of the others, they are sucking u dry and do u know why, coz it is so easy to do. I bet most of u would if u had the chance as well :D Who doesnt want free money EVERYONE does :p

Their policies are what many people would like to see happen though. They cut through all the BS and say what most people think. And I say again - the policies are not racist. The people in the party may well be - just like many in the Conservatives are!

If the people are racist what makes u think if they were to come into power they wouldnt turn their policies into racist policies and want to get rid off non whites

Ive talked to u and memphisto loads of times in the SA and it seems we get along just fine (excpet for a few arsenal-man u arguements hehe :P) do u think people like me should have to leave this country coz of their colour rather than the people they are.

Al Queda terrorise people of all races, not just caucasians

Nope they have a problem with whites, if others die then it doesnt bother them but it is whites which annoy them the most, I hear they aint to fond of isrealies either hehe ;)
 
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