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BNP current policies

IMMIGRATION - time to say NO!


On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years. To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question. We will abolish the ‘positive discrimination’ schemes that have made white Britons second-class citizens. We will also clamp down on the flood of ‘asylum seekers’, all of whom are either bogus or can find refuge much nearer their home countries.

EUROPE - back to British independence!


We are opposed to the Single European Currency, and support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep the Pound and our traditional weights and measures. At the same time, we are for the best possible relationship with our European neighbours and believe that the nations of Europe should be free to trade and cooperate whenever it is mutually beneficial, though without being forced into a political and economic straitjacket - political unification. Accordingly, we stand for British withdrawal from the European Union. In place of the EU, we intend to aim towards greater national self-sufficiency, and to work to restore Britain’s family and trading ties with Australia, Canada and New Zealand, and to trade with the rest of the world as it suits us. Following our withdrawal from the EU, the BNP will use the £43 million per day net contribution Britain at present makes to the European Union to fund many far more useful projects at home.

LAW AND ORDER - crack down on crime!


The BNP will crack down on crime and restore public safety and confidence. We will free the police and courts from the politically correct straitjacket that is stopping them from doing their job properly. The liberal fixation with the ‘rights’ of criminals must be replaced by concern for the rights of victims, and the right of innocent people not to become victims. We support the re-introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, and the restoration of capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence or being caught red-handed.

ECONOMY - British workers first!



Globalisation, with its export of jobs to the Third World, is bringing ruin and unemployment to British industries and the communities that depend on them. Accordingly, the BNP calls for the selective exclusion of foreign-made goods from British markets and the reduction of foreign imports. We will ensure that our manufactured goods are, wherever possible, produced in British factories, employing British workers. When this is done, unemployment in this country will be brought to an end, and secure, well-paid employment will flourish, at last getting our people back to work and ending the waste and injustice of having more than 4 million people in a hidden army of the unemployed concealed by Labour’s statistical fiddles. We further believe that British industry, commerce, land and other economic and natural assets belong in the final analysis to the British nation and people. To that end we will restore our economy and land to British ownership. We also call for preference in the job market to be given to native Britons. We will take active steps to break up the socially, economically and politically damaging monopolies now being established by the supermarket giants. Finally we will seek to give British workers a stake in the success and prosperity of the enterprises whose profits their labour creates by encouraging worker shareholder and co-operative schemes.

EDUCATION - discipline, standards, achievement!


We are against the ‘trendy’ teaching methods that have made Britain one of the most poorly educated nations in Europe. We will end the practice of politically correct indoctrination in all its guises and we will restore discipline in the classroom, give authority back to teachers and put far greater emphasis on training young people in the industrial and technological skills necessary in the modern world. We will also seek to instill in our young people knowledge of and pride in the history, cultures and heritage of the native peoples of Britain.

AGRICULTURE - quality before quantity!


We see a strong, healthy agriculture sector as vital to the country. Britain's farming industry will be encouraged to produce a much greater part of the nation's need in food products. Priority will be switched from quantity to quality, as we move from competing in a global economy to maximum self-sufficiency for Britain. We will ensure a major shift to healthier and more sustainable organic farming. We are pledged to ensure the restoration of Britain's once great fishing industry with the reimposition of the former exclusion zones around our coast.

HEALTH - first-class healthcare for all!


We are wholly committed to a free, fully funded National Health Service for all British citizens. We will revitalise the Health Service by boosting staff and bed numbers, slashing unnecessary bureaucracy and by addressing the root cause of low recruitment and retention – low pay. We will see to it that no money is given in foreign aid while our own hospitals are short of beds and the staff to run them. More emphasis must be placed on healthy living with greater understanding of sickness prevention through physical exercise, a healthier environment and improved diets.

TRANSPORT - time to invest!



Increased investment is needed in Britain’s public transport system to bring it up to the highest standards in the world. The fiasco of rail privatisation with different companies running services and track leading to higher fares and lower safety also needs to be resolved. Congestion of our towns and cities must be eased by the provision of greater incentives to use rail and bus transport instead of private cars. The first step is to end the crime and squalor that puts so many people off public transport. Motorists must not be made the scapegoats for government failure. Fuel tax should be cut, motorway speed limits raised, and hidden speed cameras should be banned. Far more must be done to encourage the development and use of cleaner fuels.

ENVIRONMENT - NO to pollution!



Our ideal for Britain is that of a clean, beautiful country, free of pollution in all its forms. We will enforce standards to curb those practices, whether by business or the individual, which cause environmental damage. “The polluter pays to clean up the mess” must become a fact of life, not an electioneering slogan. In towns we would work to replace the brutalist modernism of 1960s-style-architecture with a blend of traditional local styles and materials and a more human scale.

FOREIGN AID - time to spend our money on our own people!


We reject the idea that Britain must forever be obliged to subsidise the incompetence and corruption of Third World states by supplying them with financial aid. We will link foreign aid with our voluntary resettlement policy, whereby those nations taking significant numbers of people back to their homelands will need cash to help absorb those returning. The billions of pounds saved every year by this policy will also be reallocated to vital services in Britain.

PENSIONERS - pensioners before asylum seekers!


The conditions in which many of Britain’s old people are forced to live are a national disgrace. We are pledged to ensure that all our old folk are able to live in comfortable homes, and will restore the earnings link with pensions. Elderly people who have paid a lifetime of taxes and reared families should not have to sell their homes to pay for care.

NORTHERN IRELAND - NO to sectarianism!


Britain has shamefully allowed the terrorists in N.I. to come close to winning when the IRA could have been destroyed years ago. Government weakness has led to hundreds of deaths and given those same terrorists a share in government. We would end all attempts to force the people of Northern Ireland to accept foreign interference in their affairs and deal with terrorism – from whatever side – once and for all. No one with links to a terrorist organisation that refuses to lay down its arms should be allowed to enter government. We would abolish state-supported segregation in education. In the long run, we wish to end the conflict in Ireland by welcoming Eire as well as Ulster as equal partners in a federation of the nations of the British Isles.

DEFENCE - no more cuts!


Successive cuts in defence spending have left Britain’s armed forces perilously weak. We will boost Britain’s armed forces to ensure that they are able to deal with any emergency, and defend our homeland and our independence. We will bring our troops back from Germany and withdraw from NATO, since recent political developments make both commitments obsolete. We will close all foreign military bases on British soil, and refuse to risk British lives in meddling ‘peace-keeping’ missions in parts of the world where no British interests are at stake – a position of armed neutrality. We will also restore national service for our young with the option of civil or military service.

FOREIGN AFFAIRS - Britain's interests first!


Britain’s foreign relations should be determined by the protection of our own national interest and not by our like or dislike of other nations’ internal politics. We would have no quarrel with any nation that does not threaten British interests. We will maintain an independent foreign policy of our own, and not a spineless subservience to the USA, the ‘international community’, or any other country.

DEMOCRACY - letting the people decide!


The British people invented modern Parliamentary democracy. Yet in recent years the British people have been denied their democratic rights. On issue after issue, the views of the majority of British people have been ignored and overridden by a Politically Correct ‘élite’ which thinks it knows best. On immigration, on Capital Punishment, on the surrender of British sovereignty to the EU and in numerous other areas, democracy has been absent as Labour, Tories and Lib-Dems conspire in election after election to offer the British people no real choice on such vital issues. The BNP exists to give the British people, that choice, and thus to restore and defend the basic democratic rights we have all been denied. We favour more democracy, not less, not just at national but at regional and local level. Power should be devolved to the lowest level possible so that local communities can make decisions which affect them. We will remove legal curbs on freedom of speech imposed by successive Governments over the last 40 years. We will implement a Bill of Rights guaranteeing fundamental freedoms to the British people. We will ensure that ordinary British people have real democratic power over their own lives and that Government, local and national, is truly accountable to the people who elect it.



I personally see nothing wrong with most of them. There are a couple which do worry me but like a lot of people have said before you can only vote for the political party who has the most policies that appeal to you.

At the moment the BNP are high on my list.
 
Originally posted by riotstar
Not in this country they're not. They still have to obey the laws of the country about not inciting racial hatred or causing offence.

If people have racist views they should keep them to themselves
It is not illegal in this country to have racist views or opinions. It is not illegal to air them. So why, in your words, should they "keep them to themselves"? Why should you be able to censor their ability to express that opinion.

Note that I am being VERY careful what I said here. I did not say that inciting racial hatred was legal (it isn't), or that racial abuse or harrassment is legal (it isn't), or that racial discrimination is legal (it isn't), but that simply holding a racist opinion, or even expressing it, is legal.

The primary thrust of the Race laws in the UK are about discrimination i.e. acting in such a way as to disadvantage someone on racial grounds. And in that context (referring back to the earlier discussion of what constituted racism, it does (in terms of the application of the law) cover race, colour, nationality (including citizenship), ethnic or national origin. The Race Relations Act does not cover religion.
 
Originally posted by riotstar
Not in this country they're not. They still have to obey the laws of the country about not inciting racial hatred or causing offence.

If people have racist views they should keep them to themselves

there's a difference between inciting racial hatred and airing opinions which would be deemed racist. Causing offence is not really a crime, if it is i'm sure i'd be doing life by now.

People with racist views should keep quiet? how liberal :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Marcus
It is not illegal in this country to have racist views or opinions. It is not illegal to air them. So why, in your words, should they "keep them to themselves"? Why should you be able to censor their ability to express that opinion.

Because from what I've seen of people with racist views, they can't air them without causing offence or inciting hatred. Note that this is a mass generalisation, but one that's true most of the time.
 
Originally posted by Kanes
there's a difference between inciting racial hatred and airing opinions which would be deemed racist. Causing offence is not really a crime, if it is i'm sure i'd be doing life by now.

People with racist views should keep quiet? how liberal :rolleyes:

Depends entirely how you air them and who to.

And where did I say I was a liberal?
 
Id never vote BNP obviously one of the reasons being my roots dont lie in this country. Their views on immigration sound awfull racist to me and its like they want only whites in england. Labour promised an awfull lot but failured to delver and seemed to have changed their stance on certain things. It is a well known fact that BNP is run by people who are racists and i can easily see them completely doing a U turn and wanting to throw out all non whites.

Why should i have to leave this country just because im not white, i thought racism was being stamped out and it seems to have come back :( I remember this one boy saying to me "oh you indians have come to this country recently and have become more sucessfull then us and its not fair" What that idiot doesnt realise is people like my parents worked a lot harder than others to get somewhere in life, while their parents were prolly in a pub having a pint mine were in a factory working their ass off so why shouldnt we be more sucessfull.

Their policies sound all good but they are not practical at all, everyone wants better roads better heathcare but where are they gonna get the money for it.
 
Originally posted by dirtydog
I think you've just described a lot of people on this forum when you say discriminate on grounds of nationality :) All those who don't mind killing Iraqis because they are Iraqis, for example. Or those who hate the French because they are French.

Yeah the sad thing is its true, you would think people had sense rather than descriminate others because they are different.

Originally posted by Kanes
so people having an opinion is bad
yet killling people because of their views is acceptable

how understanding and liberal :o

Yes, people having racist views, opinions is bad. What is wrong with that? How does being racist count towards any possible productivity? Racism is useless and if I had the power I would abolish it and punish those who are racist.

If someone in the states celebrated the 9/11 tradgedy would they not be punished? Even though it is their opinion its not right.

I don't understand why you think racism is so good, if you agree with it so much what do you think could be achieved with it?
 
It's time some people stopped avoiding the real issues.

If you do want to vote BNP, tell us right here and now whether or not you are racist, and why you don't mind voting for a party:

- whose leader is a convicted criminal
- whose other organisers and party members are also known criminals.
- whose leader has attended a KKK convention in Texas *recently*
- whose leader has attended a conference (22/02/2002) in Washington organised by American Renaissance, an umbrella organisation for white supremacists and fascists
- whose Chairman denies the holocaust

I really could go on, but how much evidence do you want (I can provide it)?

For example, Kanes, let's discuss some of the things you've said.

Originally posted by Kanes "the BNP are supposedly racist (a point i'd debate against)"
What rubbish. If you want to open a debate in Speakers Corner, I'll meet you there, and we'll settle this otherwise I suggest you retract such a ridiculous statement. I'll say it again, I will happily debate with anyone on the subject of whether the BNP is racist or not. Just try me.

Originally posted by Kanes racists, right or wrong are entitled to their opinions without petty name calling
Is that right? Yet you agree with the BNP who want to discriminate against people just because of their race, nationality, religion or colour?

Originally posted by Kanes ok, you agree to stop calling "racism" on everyone who has a negative opinion on people who fall into a different religion, colour, nationality.
I'd say that was tending towards a definition for the term "racism". So, do you have a "negative opinion on people who fall into a different religion, colour, nationality"?

What about tom_W?

Originally posted by tom_w
I vote BNP and I am proud to. I agree with their policies, that is all that matters.
I asked you the following:

Would you care to add some more like why you agree with their policies? I should also be able to ask you without any fear of causing offence if you are you a racist and a bigot. Have you any reason for being and are you proud of being so?

I've not received an answer...

I'll ask everyone here who has expressed any sympathy or support for the BNP: are you a racist? Come on, answer! This forum frowns upon being PC so it's unlikely you will be jumped on for simply expressing your view.
 
Originally posted by Jazz


Their policies sound all good but they are not practical at all, everyone wants better roads better heathcare but where are they gonna get the money for it.


they say within there policies how they are gonna pay for it

i.e getting out of the common agricultural policy saving estimated £43 million a day. there are other ways as well by deporting illegal immigrants etc that will also save money that could be used, by restricting asylum and repatriating will save money overall etc etc

they mentioned quite a few ways they would save money and then re invest this back into improving things like healthcare etc etc

Evne if they have to raose taxes to do it what would the difference be with the current labour government who have stealth taxed everything they could so far in there two terms ?
 
Originally posted by phykell
If you do want to vote BNP, tell us right here and now whether or not you are racist, and why you don't mind voting for a party:

Why should people tell you anything? You the voting police or something?


so it's unlikely you will be jumped on for simply expressing your view.

HaHaHa!!! OMG!!! Just look at all the above. :D ;) :p :cool: :)
 
I would consider vioting BNP and I am not a rascist

however phykell I am starting to think you could be termed so because you are rascist against anyone who would support the BNP.

you are discriminating against them because they have different beliefs and different values than yourself and could therefore be considered a rascist.
 
Originally posted by memphisto I personally see nothing wrong with most of them. There are a couple which do worry me but like a lot of people have said before you can only vote for the political party who has the most policies that appeal to you.
Of course you can see nothing wrong with them, because you are literally reading them at face value. That's how they are designed to read - to read just fine to anybody that is either to lazy or ignorant to delve any deeper. There is plenty of evidence around to show the true nature of the BNP and what it stands for. If you can use a computer and have Internet access, you have no excuse for not understanding the BNP's true fundamental nature.

Originally posted by memphisto At the moment the BNP are high on my list.
Then you have you head in the sand (a poor analogy, because ostriches have never actually been shown to bury their heads in sand, but it's more polite than saying where else you might have it ;) - that's a joke by the way).
 
Originally posted by memphisto
they say within there policies how they are gonna pay for it

i.e getting out of the common agricultural policy saving estimated £43 million a day. there are other ways as well by deporting illegal immigrants etc that will also save money that could be used, by restricting asylum and repatriating will save money overall etc etc

they mentioned quite a few ways they would save money and then re invest this back into improving things like healthcare etc etc

Evne if they have to raose taxes to do it what would the difference be with the current labour government who have stealth taxed everything they could so far in there two terms ?
Non of it adds up. Deporting illegal immigrants is impossible if you don't know who they are or where they came from.

Improving healthcare, transport, education all at the same time? who'd going to pay for all this? At the same time pulling away from the US AND Europe?

lmao@ "bring unemployment to an end" :rolleyes:

Their policies are a joke; a thinly veiled cover for their true agenda.
 
Originally posted by silverpaw
Non of it adds up. Deporting illegal immigrants is impossible if you don't know who they are or where they came from.

Improving healthcare, transport, education all at the same time? who'd going to pay for all this? At the same time pulling away from the US AND Europe?

lmao@ "bring unemployment to an end" :rolleyes:

Their policies are a joke; a thinly veiled cover for their true agenda.


same as every other political party then mate

they say what they want you to hear then continue with there own agenda.
 
Originally posted by dirtydog
I may vote BNP, I support most of their policies and no I am not racist.
You might not be but they are, so you'll elect a racist party who will persecute your coloured neighbours and encite racial hatred. :confused:
 
Originally posted by memphisto
same as every other political party then mate

they say what they want you to hear then continue with there own agenda.

But BNP's agenda is slightly, infact a lot more dangerous than other parties.

I would like to know who is racist here also, like phykell has put, this is supposed to be one of the more anti PC forums.
 
One word

Never

BTW if anyone has any problem with this post

may I quote some uk law

"Publishing and disseminating materials such as leaflets and newspapers that are likely to incite racial hatred is also a criminal offence. If anyone has a complaint with respect to any of these criminal matters they should be reported to the police.
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Racially offensive material in the media contravenes media codes of practice. Complaints can be made to the Press Complaints Commission or the Broadcasting Standards Authority. Complaints about racially offensive advertisements should be made to the Advertising Standards Authority.

The Race Relations Act 1976 and the Race Relations (Amendment) Act 2000 are available as publications from The Stationery Office Bookshop, not from the CRE.
 
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Originally posted by phykell
Of course you can see nothing wrong with them, because you are literally reading them at face value. That's how they are designed to read - to read just fine to anybody that is either to lazy or ignorant to delve any deeper. There is plenty of evidence around to show the true nature of the BNP and what it stands for. If you can use a computer and have Internet access, you have no excuse for not understanding the BNP's true fundamental nature.

I do not know the true fundamental nature of the labour government or the tories or the lib dems either then but I still have a vote.

I have delved deeper and I know where you are coming from however. My point is that based on there policies they are no worse and no more rascist than any other party.

If taken on face value they would appeal to great deal of the british public as they say what a lot of people want to hear. But again most of the british public will go on the policies set out in the pre election build up and the manifestos etc that are handed out and are online. In which case you cannot deem the party rascist.

However like you say there are other things that need to be considered. These things I will consider before ever making a vote for them or for any other political party but I am not going to wipe them off my list until then.

A final point though is that a number of people on here have argued with myself and in threads i have read etc about the rehabilitation of criminals and the fact that they can once rehabilitated lead a good life and have a positive effect on society. But you are unwilling to give these criminals a chance simply because there political views are linked with that of the BNP.
 
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