Does anyone vote BNP if so why

LizardKing · 8 Mar 2003 at 21:54

Originally posted by silverpaw

You can't force people not to be racist, the best solution for society is to bring everybody together so tehy see we're not all against the other and that we're not so different.

Im sure that would work but a lot of people dont want to be brought together, they live in there own little "sub" town and go to there own schools. The majority of Asians in Lancashire have decided to segregate themselfs from the rest of the population and dont want to intograte into the country
I blame a lot of this on Religion, infact id go as far as saying thats its the main cause behind any racial hate. There beliefs that there religion in the only religion and everyone should abide by it is just stupidly outdated. (not pointing to any particular religion as there all guilty)

Bear · 8 Mar 2003 at 22:13

Originally posted by LizardKing
Im sure that would work but a lot of people dont want to be brought together, they live in there own little "sub" town and go to there own schools. The majority of Asians in Lancashire have decided to segregate themselfs from the rest of the population and dont want to intograte into the country
I blame a lot of this on Religion, infact id go as far as saying thats its the main cause behind any racial hate. There beliefs that there religion in the only religion and everyone should abide by it is just stupidly outdated. (not pointing to any particular religion as there all guilty)

So what do you think about expats living in their own communities in foreign countries all over the world. That down to religion too :rolleyes:

I've never met an Asian that has ever looked down at me because of me not believing in their religion.

phykell · 8 Mar 2003 at 22:25

The BNP is a racist party founded on racist ideals. Anyone who disagrees is welcome to debate this with me in Speaker's Corner...

To vote for them (the BNP) is to align yourself with them whether your vote is a protest one or not. To vote for them as a protest, thinking it is a vote against the current Government's policy on asylum seekers is lazy, ineffective and ignorant. If you feel strongly about Government policies, how about contacting your local member of Parliament and putting you views forward. How about even writing to Tony Blair and letting him know how you feel? There are plenty of ways available to air your views though you might not see them as particularly effective. No matter, to resort to voting for a racist, bigoted political party must just be the easy way out, because all you need to do is put your tick in the right place, and there, you've voted against asylum seekers - Tony Blair can't possibly ignore that can he?

Around 10% of the UK's population is ethnic. Now I'd say this is a pretty difficult challenge for a party such as the BNP if they ever did get into power. What do you think they would do? Would they start shipping people out? Would they start breaking up families? Would they try to disintegrate our multi-cultural society?

Are they overtly racist anymore? Has the leopard really changed its spots or are they just biding their time? Are you really going to be taken in by a cynical marketing ploy by a party whose organisers and candidates are often criminals, whose Chairman denies the holocaust and has been convicted for inciting racial hatred? Are you prepared to ignore the fact that Panorama showed a tape of the BNP Chairman addressing a KKK rally in Texas and that he has attended a conference (22/02/2002) in Washington organised by American Renaissance, an umbrella organisation for white supremacists and fascists?

Before you place your tick think about this: Racism is not just some policy that the BNP have discarded recently. Racism and bigotry are at the roots of the BNP so that a vote for them is a vote for a party whose fundamental beliefs and ideals promote the discrimination of people by their skin colour. It really is that simple!

wassap · 8 Mar 2003 at 22:36

Thank You Phykell, i think thats what peeps have been trying to say, they`re party is built up on race hate.

:mad:

Altered Corpse · 8 Mar 2003 at 23:29

For anyone that's interested, the Panorama report can be watched at http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/programmes/2001/bnp_special/default.stm

Bear · 8 Mar 2003 at 23:35

Originally posted by Altered Corpse
For anyone that's interested, the Panorama report can be watched at http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/programmes/2001/bnp_special/default.stm

What do you need to view the .Ram file ?

Altered Corpse · 8 Mar 2003 at 23:36

Originally posted by Bear
What do you need to view the .Ram file ?

Real Player

Bear · 8 Mar 2003 at 23:40

Originally posted by Altered Corpse
Real Player

Ah ok thanks, cant stand real player so I'll have to give it a miss.

ironman · 9 Mar 2003 at 00:04

Originally posted by stroke
Do you not feel that that kinda takes the ****?

If they don't like white people and can't respect the laws of this land then what exactly are they doing here?

What takes the ****? Does whites being racist to others not take the **** or is that allowed because they are native to this country?

Racism goes both ways unfortunately. "What exactly are they doing here" they were born the same place as you mate. If you commit a crime what exactly are you doing here?

Lizardking why dont we put this all down to religion eh? You find that asian people when they came here decades ago bought houses in the same area, its simply gone on from there, we are not seperating ourselves on purpose, its only natural where they lived is where their grandparents started out.

Your views on religion are partly wrong, now way in our sikh community here have we forced religion or looked down on people if they were not religious. After all we believe in equality. Get your facts right before mouthing your generalistic views on things you dont even understand.

iam · 9 Mar 2003 at 01:21

Originally posted by Matthew-1985
Wow. Such a great comment. Thanks for adding to the thread.

Oh. Dear. Lord.

I almost cried when I saw that

/sig changed accordingly

Maz · 9 Mar 2003 at 02:10

Originally posted by stroke
Do you not feel that that kinda takes the ****?

If they don't like white people and can't respect the laws of this land then what exactly are they doing here?

This is funny,

Ex-RoNiN · 9 Mar 2003 at 02:27

Originally posted by stroke
Do you not feel that that kinda takes the ****?

If they don't like white people and can't respect the laws of this land then what exactly are they doing here?

I didn't know you had to be white to be considered European, or British.

:confused:

Ex-RoNiN · 9 Mar 2003 at 02:37

Fact is, people, if you vote for the BNP, then you vote for racist scumbags.

You have no idea what you are voting for. Your grandparents never had to live in fear of the SS or Gestapo, your grandparents were not sent away to Poland to never come back again, your grandparents were not raped by the SS and then shot, your grandparents were never treated like inferior beings, like cattle.

However, some of your grandparents did witness the aftermath of all this when liberating places like Bergen-Belsen. Some of your grandparents witnessed what racism had caused to Europe when stationed in Germany as part of the occupying force.

Ask your grandparents that have experienced racism about racism, then think, then vote.

If you vote for the BNP or any other racist scum, you are voting for destruction of civilisation.

IceBus · 9 Mar 2003 at 02:38

I'd never vote BNP. I feel that parties like the BNP have provided a place for subversive/racist right wing elements to get their views aired while remaining an overtly white supremissist party who base their policies upon bigotry and racism.

IMHO the BNP are a party whose supporters hide behind patriotism, when in fact to them it's the PC version of racism - keeping the country pure etc. etc.

In some respects I see them in the same light as Sinn Fein, in that Sinn Fein is led by terrorists who pretend to be something else. The BNP are led by racists.

I'd far rather vote for the SWP or Lib Dems than waste my vote on a racist party to try and show up labour or the conservatives. Voting for them will not effect change in the primary parties, only polarise the two more.

tom_w · 9 Mar 2003 at 09:13

I vote BNP and I am proud to. I agree with their policies, that is all that matters.

Bear · 9 Mar 2003 at 09:23

Originally posted by tom_w
I vote BNP and I am proud to. I agree with their policies, that is all that matters.

Thats fair enough if you genuinely do, as it is your choice to make.

Matthew-1985 · 9 Mar 2003 at 09:23

Originally posted by iam
/sig changed accordingly

iam · 9 Mar 2003 at 10:19

Originally posted by Matthew-1985

You no like s'ah?

phykell · 9 Mar 2003 at 11:28

Originally posted by tom_w
I vote BNP and I am proud to. I agree with their policies, that is all that matters.

That is your right which no-one can deny.

Would you care to add some more like why you agree with their policies? I should also be able to ask you without any fear of causing offence if you are you a racist and a bigot. Have you any reason for being and are you proud of being so?

dirtydog · 9 Mar 2003 at 12:32

It would be interesting to have a poll asking who would vote BNP (Yes, Maybe, No).. possibly there are more people than have said so in this thread, but they are wary of saying so because of the reaction they'll get.

I would vote Maybe.