Does driving a certain make/type of car, make you think you own the road ?

rare said:
Someones a little angry he couldnt get finance on a BMW....







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i was tempted to say hes obviously jealous but went the 'get out of our lane!' route :p
 
My experiences of how other drivers behave varies depending on the car i'm in, in the Vectra you get the Merc/BMW drivers who think they are all that because of the badge on the bonnet but in reality they have an entry level piece of cack.

In the S55, it's a lot more pleasant, this is where the typical Merc/BMW drivers sit back for a change. It does seem to attract the faster cars though, especially Jap cars but they all soon become a small dot in the mirror:D
 
Firestar_3x said:
Since when is 0-60mph the be all and end all for performance figures, after all when i overtake a car on a country lane i first stop then get upto 60 as quick as possible, its 30 - 70 that matters more.
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Because regardless of all the other figures the manufacturers tell you, the 0-62mph is the best indicator of overall performance that is regularly published, as it demonstrates the cars maximum acceleration potential, although within the limits of grip.

The 30-70 figures that manufacturers quote are pointless for a performance comparison, as they demonstrate the cars acceleration in a higher gear than the gear that allows maximum acceleration, and so therefore does not denote the cars performance potential, but rather the particular gear set up for the vehicle.
 
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Toryglen-boy said:
you could be sitting in the fast lane of the motorway going plenty fast (and lets face it, no-one sticks to 70 in the fast lane) and they come screaming up behind you, flashing their lights, to get you to move over, its like they think having a nice car, gives them ownership of the road
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No, what that is is you being sat in the fast lane in your slow car holding them up, i get annoyed when im doing some speed and somthing is just "sat" as you say you are in the overtaking lane. Any driver, whether he's driving a BMW or not, is guna do the same thing.
 
Firestar_3x said:
Since when is 0-60mph the be all and end all for performance figures, after all when i overtake a car on a country lane i first stop then get upto 60 as quick as possible, its 30 - 70 that matters more.
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yeah, about 8 seconds in my mates diesel, 12 in my petrol

diesel power :cool:
 
I'll jump on the bandwagon of "If your not overtakeing or stuck behind someone else and your in the outside lane MOVE OVER" I'm a BMW driver as well but I though exactly the same while driveing other cars.

P.S I also use my indicators
 
Trojan said:
No it's not. What right do you have to try and dictate to me my speed?

It's not BMW drivers (or any other marques drivers for that matter) that are prats, it's the people like you that sit in the overtaking lanes when you aren't overtaking. Learn to drive, and move over.
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:D

/Smiles as the thread backfires!
 
PMKeates said:
Because regardless of all the other figures the manufacturers tell you, the 0-62mph is the best indicator of overall performance that is regularly published, as it demonstrates the cars maximum acceleration potential, although within the limits of grip.

The 30-70 figures that manufacturers quote are pointless for a performance comparison, as they demonstrate the cars acceleration in a higher gear than the gear that allows maximum acceleration, and so therefore does not denote the cars performance potential, but rather the particular gear set up for the vehicle.
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Even the 0-60 figures aren't standardised though and we could argue the same thing, some car makers test with an empty car others half loaded other loaded, it all depends on the maker, but i suppose like you say on paper i suppose the 0-60 figure should be taken into account but in terms of real world performance 30 - 70 matters more, unless your racing novas off the lights........
 
yeah people who hog the right hand lane without actually passing other cars is definately my pet hate. :mad:
 
Firestar_3x said:
Even the 0-60 figures aren't standardised though and we could argue the same thing, some car makers test with an empty car others half loaded other loaded, it all depends on the maker, but i suppose like you say on paper i suppose the 0-60 figure should be taken into account but in terms of real world performance 30 - 70 matters more, unless your racing novas off the lights........
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The difference between manufacturer's testing platforms is generally very small, though, when it comes to the 0-62. Whenever an "odd" method (Such as Peugeot's old way of adding 50% payload) is used, it tends to be both pretty obvious and noted. Although one way of ensuring a fair result is to compare performance inter-group, such as Skoda diesel vs. Audi petrol etc.

I've never liked the 30-50/70 figures. They always use some arbritrary gear, which will favour the diesel due to it's torque delivery. This exemplifies what I've been saying, though. Modern diesels feel a LOT faster than they are. The 30-50/70 in 4th figures, for example, relative to their maximum potential performance demonstrated by a 0-62 figure prove that.

If you compared 30-50/70 through the gears, the diesel figures would be shunted in to line with their 0-62 figures.

And personally, I've never sat at 30 behind someone and stuck it in to 4th to overtake on a country lane. That's because I have a petrol driving style, which favours copius use of revs. 2nd would be more appropriate :p
 
It all comes down to attitude. Although in general a lot of the people who drive BMW's tend to have this "I'm it you're ****" mentality.

Whilst I agree its not right for anybody to hold somebody up who wants to make progress (i.e. above the speed limit) its downright dangerous and annoying when you have nowhere to go and somebody is still up your backside.

A bit of common sense is needed. If they have nowhere to go why put yourself and them in danger?
 
PMKeates, what has 0-60 got to do with BMW drivers in the fast lane of a motorway :p
 
dun said:
I wouldn't go as far to say that all Mercedes drivers are like that (My dad for example who is a very [font=&quot]courteous driver and normally stays in the middle lane of the motorway apart from overtaking etc) but there is a few round here who don't seem to share that mentality. To be honest though i find clio/ fiesta etc banga drivers to be more hassle especially when they don't have the power to overtake but think they're flying a rocket ship:(:p[/font]
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Your dad is a muppet then, he makes people traveling slightly faster than him in the inside lane, have to pull out from the first lane, to the second lane, and then to the third lane to overtake him and then pull back in again! If your not overtaking anyone, get on the inside!
 
I think it's just social bracket thing - beemer, mercs, lexus and audi - kinda speaks for itself, doesn't it?
The car beloved by youngish, homegrown middle class mill town gangsta wannabies. The Asian "if I wuz black ma peepz could call me Mr. Lobaloba, innit?" element or even more pathetic "I am da real Poo Didly of Kent, fo shizzle ma nizzle" unfortunate son of barrister trying to "keep it real" and get his imaginary L.A. roots back. Or the dumbshmuck Argos diamonds pierced Marshall Matters of suburbs - the make believe drug lord with badly wrapped rizla rollo in side pocket of his debadged 316i that whispers "sh.. copperz are on our tail" to his crew at any sight of R.A.C. blinking orange lights in back mirror. The retarded West Side Massive of Stains type. Essex born pretend Arsenal fans squeezing underaged "me julies" on the back seat while heading for Friday night burger at local Bingo house Wendy's with colour magazin discount vouchers in their wallets.

You know the type - your typical Beemer, Merc or Lexus tailgater.
 
i've been trying to take a lot more zen approach to driving of late, just hanging back and letting people drive like n00bs when they want to, hell Snakes on a Plane. When there is space i'll nail it passed them, or if i'm in a real hurry i might give them a flash (which usually embarrasses the Men into moving over, shaking their heads and fearing their own inadiquacies, and the women swoon then try and jump me at the next lights)

Having said that the other week i really had to get somewhere asap, in what i though at the time was a life or death situation, and when i zoomed behind people they tended to move over pretty rapidly, beemer drivers included!

I don't think its a certain type of car, although i do think some will bring out tendencies in people due to their percived image, road presance and/or high driver position. Its more likely to be the people that buy the cars. Ie someone who is naturally self important is more likely to buy a car with an image of importance
 
The problem is people don't move over, if they pull over I'll be past like a rocket and they can carry on, but no, they are doing 80 and thats plenty fast enough.

I won't tailgate them but I'd flash after 5-10 miles assuming they had chances to move over but didn't take them. After flashing they almost certainly stay in the outside lane and leave me no choice but to sit there, or undertake.

If something appears behind me in the outside lane and is clearly going to be going faster than me I will move over at the slightest chance and then pull back out. Often people harrass me from behind even though I am baulked by slower cars infront, only to discover that when the road clears I'm actually willing to travel a hell of a lot faster than they are - but I'm in a BMW and hogging the outside lane, so I'm fair game :rolleyes:

Take a trip in france or spain and you see they actually manage mway driving much better. They seem to lack the outside lane ego and realise moving over and then back out is not that hard. :p

As for the whole BMW = asshat thing, I'm not sure. Personally I'm in the outside a lot because I travel faster than most, it is very rare down here I get anything go past me. How I manage it I don't know, but in six years and 70,000+ miles I have not had any points. I'm not hogging the outside to be an arse is what I am trying to say! ;) Also bear in mind the M4 has large sections with only two lanes down here.
 
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