Didnt want an examanation of everything said and again your very defensive in your reply and yet again posting in an agressive manner..
Not at all, you are trying to push a 'theory' about SRT on the rest of us, when all I'm treating it as is a review, unfortunately it's about the only review from such 'circles', so it seems to be getting more attention then it probably deserves.
The point was for general discussion, nobodys hell bent on anything why do you always resort to being mean on name calling or supposing things which arnt true? Again you come out with some fighting attitude and not once have I made a disrespectful remark to you yet in this thread if anythign your hellbent on discrediting me, regards "reputation comment", "fanboy","conspiracy theorist" etc. Its almost laughable but rather annoying at the same time.
Unfortunately whether you like to admit it or not, you came on here and posted some rather incredulous nonsense about how some guy on a forum said that SRT where biased against GT5 because they had reported tons and tons of FM3 information prior to release, but 'strangely' where posting nothing about GT5. The fact you did it with a straight face (i.e. calmly) has little bearing on things, and using a defensive posture of accusing me of being aggressive does not undermine the incredulity of your insinuation or it's extremely thinly veiled undertone of using it to discredit a review that you don't agree with.
Also, I'm not being agressive, that assumption is in your head, not mine, I'm discussing it, yes, it may appear blunt and lacking tolerance, but don't take it as a personal attack, you made some daft statements, expect a little ribbing.
FYI
I only watched the video review in full today of the "wheel shootout" and found it rather shocking how they conducted it. Im not condemning them but that was not good for such highly trained professionals you refer to? I point this out as you are quick to discredit other review places.
If anything its misleading to the products by really only reviewing the actual wheels and not as a complete package with the pedals and how they didnt see that as relevant is beyond me.
I dont need to search the web for mistakes they may or may not make Im only pointing out I dont think your comments that seem to have them seen as masters of reviewing racing games etc is fully supported.
Just to be fair, I've just checked out the start of the Pt2 of the Wheel shootout, and honestly, they spend nearly a minute going through the test setup, why they have one rig, one set of pedals, and its clear they are trying to isolate the wheel for a more direct comparison.. and just go on to their results.. How you can make that out to be misleading and 'shocking' is just plain weird..
You totally misunderstand my stance on SRT, I don't hold them as some super reviewers that are the only credible source of review information on the web, they just happen to be one of the very very few places that has done a review of FM3 from the angle of PC Sim racers.
Why are you again relating all this to a FM3 review and physics etc.
Its nothing to do with a FM3 review but is to do with your opinion of them being more professional or certainly better placed than other reviewers or online games websites. That comment I think is rather unfair particulary as many reviews are quite credible and dont need some full physics analysis, particulary with console games which are semi/sims
If anything Id take peoples opinions from online communities as they actually have forum reviews/discussions done by owners that would be much more credible and not commericially balanced.
No, you have it wrong, it is about an FM3 review and in particular it's physics, nothing more, nothing less..
If you can't see how they may offer an insight in to how a game stacks up in the context of PC Sims that IGN or others don't/can't/wont then I'm talking to a brick wall.
I have repeatedly stated that it's all about being one of the rare reviews that has particular emphasis on phsyics and simulation there-of, something the more casual game sites just gloss over in one sentance.
The really funny thing is, most reviews raved about the physics, so if I had a weak point to make I could pick from many casual reviews of the game and they'd still back up my point.
Also regards my comments on the G27 review.
Thats an entirely different video review that they done and my email congratulating them. That was for them having one of the first reviews and showings of the G27. It was not only an excellent review but it was good to see them being able to position themselves with Logitech to get such an oppertunity no different than they have done in the past with Fanatec products with showcase exclusives.
That takes quite a bit of work dealing with companies and gaining that respect for them to support SRT. Darwin and Sean deserved some credit which I gave them...
So they can do excellent reviews sometimes then? Sounds good.
My own concern is that thier lovable, comical ways and fact that yes they can make mistakes is only human and taken as semi serious. However I see in reading comments growing dislike for their shift in getting going more commericial and seen less as respected fanbased reviewers. Once that begins to become more aparent people will belive less in their reviews and again they could become no different to ign who you criticise yet maybe have reviewers who have played games most of their lives.
The Sim raceway sponsorship is not being seen as a good thing by some PC mod groups.
Its understandable if "Sim raceway" has some issues with R Factor mod groups and them looking to profit over material not created or belonging to them.
I-racing is entirely different as they create and licensce all their content.
I think you fail to seperate some obvious commercial leanings apart from their ability to review. People aren't complaining that they have become impartial because of their sponsorship, they are being accused of turning their back on the modding community (from the article you gave), which is quite different.
They have plenty of PS3 games reviewed and mentioned in plenty of recent shows, I'm sure GT5 will feature heavily once released, there is not one shred of evidence to remotely suggest that your initial theory of bias to FM3 (before you started on the deflectory discrediting stance) is remotely plausible..
Honestly, and I'll say it again, I made a simple mention of the review to quell an argument over physics, I wasn't making out FM3 was awesome, just merely OK even in the realms of PC Sims, and could only find 1 review in that context to use. I said I'm sure GT5 will also score highly..
You retorted with some nonsense about how they where effectively biased towards FM3 based on 'some forum guy', then went down the road of discrediting based on some article that now turns out to be about the modding community.
You then go on to say the Wheel shootout review was terrible and misleading because they didn't even use the supplied pedals with each wheel, only to find out that they spend ages going over the test setup, explaining the single pedal set rig, and in terms of isolating just the wheel for review, seems perfectly OK to me, but to you it's a clear sign of ineptness..
This isn't being aggressive, this is just not tolerating what seem to be very misguided comments based on very skewed hearsay and tenuously linked subject matter to form a very inappropriate conclusion.
And I feel I better just say it one last time....
I'm not saying that SRT are some super reviewers, or that they are the only credible source. I make the distinction that they are one of the only PC Sim related sites that has done a review of FM3 in context of PC Sims, with particular emphasis on physics etc, something that IGN and the like do not do, whether IGN are capable of this or not is irrelevant, they didn't do it for their review, which is why I say that SRT are more relevant when it comes to assessing physics against PC Sims..
