Does something need to be done about dogs?

Running would just excite them more with the chase, so unless you can run to climb something quickly, you aren't going to get away and kick 'em as hard as you like it's unlikely to do anything.

The main tactic once being attacked and bitten (dont try and pull your limb out) is to fall on them and use your body weight to try and break their ribs & pin them down, then either go for their eyes or choke them by strangulation or pushing the limb further into their mouth and into the throat.

If you need to de-escalate with an aggressive dog before it attacks, don't make eye contact, don't smile, turn sideways and move slowly.

What's the tactic with a pack? Lie down and pray?
 
What's the tactic with a pack? Lie down and pray?

Pretty much. Though in that case it would be better to run* and pray.

*As you have no chance to fight against multiple dogs.

NB : Another option for de-escalation is also to make yourself as big and loud as possible, wave arms, roar, throw things at them etc to try and frighten them off at the start
 
You’d run like any decent person and give the dog a toe punt straight up the arse. Go full chuck Norris on them.
Only to realise they are genetically designed to not give a crap and they turn on you..

As happened when a Staffie attacked the Mrs and our dog, the comments left about the 4 blokes who struggled with it for 10 minutes trying to get it off our dog was all "Easy, you just need to stick your finger up it's backside" or "Everyone knows you just grab its rear legs and do a wheelbarrow manoevre".. Because as some people don't know, when you are designed to kill bulls, your nervous system is setup to not react to physical harm on the rest of your body.. they have to take be prepared for a beating to bring the bull down.

Running would just excite them more with the chase, so unless you can run to climb something quickly, you aren't going to get away and kick 'em as hard as you like it's unlikely to do anything.

The main tactic once being attacked and bitten (dont try and pull your limb out) is to fall on them and use your body weight to try and break their ribs & pin them down, then either go for their eyes or choke them by strangulation or pushing the limb further into their mouth and into the throat.
Basically you do indeed probably have to go to nuclear levels that I wager a lot of the population would simply not know what to do.. Hell, I have no idea how I'd react.. I had lots of haunting visions of what I'd wanted to have done had I been there when our was attacked, but thoughts and actual actions aren't always the same..

Maybe we should just put it on the curriculum in schools "How to defend yourself against the bestest and most bootiful family pets", they can slot it between "Race awareness and white priviledge" and "Gender awareness" studies.. who needs STEM subjects anyway.. ;)
 
The point is it’s instinct to want to run in and help another human being, not sit on the sidelines, whip out your phone and hope the dog becomes conscious of the flack it’s going to receive on social media.
 
Waiting could well be the difference between life or death.

That being said your child may slip in Canal or lake, so do you want someone to jump in and risk their life or stand there filming?
 
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Basically you do indeed probably have to go to nuclear levels that I wager a lot of the population would simply not know what to do.. Hell, I have no idea how I'd react.. I had lots of haunting visions of what I'd wanted to have done had I been there when our was attacked, but thoughts and actual actions aren't always the same..

That is the problem, a) knowing you're in that existential situation that the nuclear option is warranted and b) having the forethought to not act on instinct (run away/defend yourself) and go on the attack.

I mean someone's not going to be too happy if their terrier nips at you and you go full suplex on it's ass and then throttle their little darling in front of their eyes :p
 
I mean someone's not going to be too happy if their terrier nips at you and you go full suplex on it's ass and then throttle their little darling in front of their eyes :p
screw em, they'll keep their yappy nippy mutt under control next time......or they'll be the ones getting their ass suplexed :cry:
 
Instead, lets do what someone else suggested a few pages back, and have Andrew Tate and Drake act as role models for people who want to own tough dogs.... Can't quite remember who mentioned it though........... :cry:

It'd probably cost less than the Police resources needed to enforce legislation, based on published financials... and with the vehement anti-dog brigade driving a ground-level social media campaign, it stands a much higher chance of success.

Seriously though, if you can get dumb-ass people to pay £11 for a bottle of flavoured water, why can't you sway their opinions off status dogs?

Yeah, to be fair - he/she might be with someone else who's already talking to, or has spoken to the cops and they're on their way... "shrugs"

I still can't believe that people would not be looking for *something* more helpful to do than gawk, even if it's just throwing rocks at the dog or screaming for others to come and help.
Stepney is part of LB Tower Hamlets, one of the worst LBs for crime rate. There must be someone with a knife or something nearby? :p

I read the best thing to do is give them your forearm to clamp onto so you know where the head is... And then bite thier nose off as it's highly sensitive.
Aside from the ridiculous biting, that's roughly what I was taught by RMP dog handlers. Training included 'live' exercises with real MP dogs who did not hold back.
This was intended for use by soldiers who were unarmed and on the run from 45kg German Shepherds trained to take down quarry:

- If possible, use a weapon that keeps the dog at a distance. If not, you'll have to fight at close quarters.
- Pad your off-side forearm with something. Ideally a thick coat or a blanket, but even a t-shirt will help. Anything the dog can get teeth into.
- Get a weapon if you can. A hefty stick, a brick, a trowel, anything you can wield one-handed.
- Offer the forearm and let them take hold on that, so your main arm is free. Don't try and pull back or wrestle them, but focus on keeping on your feet.
- Batter the **** out of their nose, eyes and throat.

Make of that what you will.
 
Yeah I guess it's just best tactics. You're gonna get bitten anyway and trying to wrestle or run from an angry dog isn't going to work.
So give them your left forearm if you're right handed.
That way the dog is 'occupied' and you can use your other arm to poke its eyes out, or hold it's head steady whilst you bite its nostrils off. Or preferably both.

Trying to run, or kick or punch a dog like that just won't work, it'll just make it more angry.
 
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Depends on the dog I wouldn’t want to be putting my face so close to its teeth though.

I guess the idea is that they like to grab onto something and not release, so you take advantage of that.

You're not going to win a fight with a pit bull or GSH by punching or kicking them, they'll just shrug it off.

Don't get me wrong, in the heat of the moment it's easier said than done
 
I guess the idea is that they like to grab onto something and not release, so you take advantage of that.

You're not going to win a fight with a pit bull or GSH by punching or kicking them, they'll just shrug it off.

Don't get me wrong, in the heat of the moment it's easier said than done
You may well buy enough time to save someone’s life. But it depends on the situation.

I’ve red that staffies have a high threshold for pain as others have probably heard, their are accounts of them having their jaws clamped onto bulls and even dismemberment wouldn’t release its grip. Hence the rep for locking it’s jaws.

In the heat of the moment most wouldn’t have the where with all to plan, putting you face into such close proximity is pretty poor advice, unless you’ve trained or been in that situation.

It’s a bit like 2 people fighting, it’s usually windmills and handbags rather than Conor McGregor and Mayweather.
 
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You may well buy enough time to save someone’s life. But it depends on the situation.

I’ve red that staffies have a high threshold for pain as others have probably heard, their are accounts of them having their jaws clamped onto bulls and even dismemberment wouldn’t release its grip. Hence the rep for locking it’s jaws.

In the heat of the moment most wouldn’t have the where with all to plan, putting you face into such close proximity is pretty poor advice, unless you’ve trained or been in that situation.

It’s a bit like 2 people fighting, it’s usually windmills and handbags rather than Conor McGregor and Mayweather.

Oh for sure I agree! But if the dogs in a frenzy you'll have no luck running or slapping it like in the video up there somewhere, you'll just sustain more injury.
Just have to hedge your bets really by giving it a sacrificial arm and then poke it's eyes out and chew the end of its nose off.
You won't win in a straight up boxing match gainst a staffie or a pit bull.
 
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If anyone knows what to do in such a situation, it must be @Chris Wilson

tbh, people say throwing a bucket of water over a dog that's locked onto somebody can work well, or burning them somehow, but I doubt either is practical in such a situation.
 
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