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When will you stop spreading lies, I appreciate it’s a Trump trait tell a lie often enough then it becomes the truth. Even if it’s unsupported by the facts.

Biden was echoing both a US and European policy to get rid of a compromised / corrupt prosecutor. In other words he was carrying out a US policy rather than what Trump was caught doing, digging up dirt on a political opponent.

he's been told this multiple times by numerous people, he doesn't care in the slightest, you're talking to a brick wall.
 
he's been told this multiple times by numerous people, he doesn't care in the slightest, you're talking to a brick wall.

I do think that one of the biggest differences between left leaning people is that when presented with a fact, they take it on board and don't keep repeating it.

With right leaning people, they just keep parroting stuff that's already been debunked.
 
That video is so stupid, it was US government policy also backed by the EU to get rid of the corrupt Ukraine official.

As opposed to: A president withholding aid to get a political rival investigated.


It does seem strange that only after 3 weeks druggie Hunter biden took a job and money from a company that his father said was corrupt.

And when his dad ran for office. Druggie hunters job with a corrupt company had vanished...
 
I do think that one of the biggest differences between left leaning people is that when presented with a fact, they take it on board and don't keep repeating it.

With right leaning people, they just keep parroting stuff that's already been debunked.
My experience is the exact opposite.
 
It does seem strange that only after 3 weeks druggie Hunter biden took a job and money from a company that his father said was corrupt.

And when his dad ran for office. Druggie hunters job with a corrupt company had vanished...
Apart from conspiracy nonsense on the likes of faux news where do you get this from?

Also druggie?
 
Apart from conspiracy nonsense on the likes of faux news where do you get this from?

Also druggie?

Hunter Biden is the subject of multiple criminal investigations related to “fraud, money laundering and a counterfeiting scheme,” in documents filed today in his Arkansas paternity case

https://nypost.com/2019/12/23/hunter-bidens-baby-mama-says-hes-linked-to-multiple-criminal-probes/

People believe all the ridiculous Democrat talking points without even blinking on here, Trump obviously knew before taking that phone call Burisma/Bidens have already been under investigation, and probably before Joe even announced to run. He's not "digging up dirt", he's routing out corruption; the Dems take the bait time after time.

Yes druggie, police in Arizona found a crack pipe in his rental car after it was damaged in an accident and was discharged from the Navy after testing positive for cocaine

Also don't you think this is interesting, 4 days after the phone call with Zelensky, Biden announced he was going to run, and on that same day Hunter leaves the board of Burisma
 
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Other than my friends, and some work colleagues my only other experience is this forum and the same people often repeat debunked conspiracy theories or outright spin.
It shows. Try looking at some of the left wing stuff on Twitter especially (actually don't, it's a depressing cess pool).
 
Maybe not completely true but how many times on here have facts been presented to debunk things, generally quite convincingly, yet people still spout the same CT constantly.
That's universal to humans, nothing to do with left or right leaning on politics!

There is almost a limitless amount of SJW videos on youtube making left leaning wokeness communists look like absolute fools when presented with statistics.
 
Hunter Biden is the subject of multiple criminal investigations related to “fraud, money laundering and a counterfeiting scheme,” in documents filed today in his Arkansas paternity case

https://nypost.com/2019/12/23/hunter-bidens-baby-mama-says-hes-linked-to-multiple-criminal-probes/

Lmao.

A private eye/investigator, on behalf of his opponent in court .

Is that it? Even if it is, why do you believe/care about this and not the countless times Trump has been done for fraud?

Does it not bother you that Trump is an unindicted conspirator in the Cohen case ? Does it not bother you that vast swathes of his campaign and associates are now in prison for various crimes related to fraud etc?

You take the words of a random private investigator working on behalf of Biden's opponent in court over massive amounts of real evidence and actual indictments/prison terms in relation to Trump's world.

Why is that?
 
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Hunter Biden is the subject of multiple criminal investigations related to “fraud, money laundering and a counterfeiting scheme,” in documents filed today in his Arkansas paternity case

https://nypost.com/2019/12/23/hunter-bidens-baby-mama-says-hes-linked-to-multiple-criminal-probes/

People believe all the ridiculous Democrat talking points without even blinking on here, Trump obviously knew before taking that phone call Burisma/Bidens have already been under investigation, and probably before Joe even announced to run. He's not "digging up dirt", he's routing out corruption; the Dems take the bait time after time.

Yes druggie, police in Arizona found a crack pipe in his rental car after it was damaged in an accident and was discharged from the Navy after testing positive for cocaine

Also don't you think this is interesting, 4 days after the phone call with Zelensky, Biden announced he was going to run, and on that same day Hunter leaves the board of Burisma
As said above private investigator - so nothing from the actual prosecutors or actual independent investigators (IE the FBI, police etc).

And unlike you i'm not utterly fixated on him to the point where i'm folloing the news about someone who is not a public figure in his own right.

But yeah, a private investigator working for someone taking him to court is totally independant and so much more reliable than the FBI, the CIA, pretty much every western government's intelligence services etc.

and if finding a drug pariiphinala in a rental car is proof that someone is a drug addict, then that burden of proof is low even by US drug parania standards given rental cars are often not cleaned brilliantly (often at most a quick hoover and wipe down to make them presentable).
 
Even so Biden admits on tape to holding back $1b until a Ukrainian prosecutor (investigating a company for corruption in which his son was involved in) got fired, the simple fact is if the Democrats had that same evidence (basically a confession) against Trump they wouldn't need to hold back going to the senate and a lot of Republicans would have likely to voted to impeach as well. If you read the transcript all Trump does is to ask Ukraine to look into corruption there's no overt threat like Biden has admitted to, Ukraine themselves deny being threatened.

As an aside how many people on here would like to be charged with rape or another serious crime and have the CPS just keep it hanging over them indefinitely without being taken to trial whilst your whole circle of friends/community knew about it? the Democrats are a disgrace and their claims to be the party of the Constitution is a joke.

BTW in the middle of it all a Democrat switched to the the Republican party and claimed to have been threatened with effectively being pushed out of the Democratic party if he didn't vote to impeach, how many of you would like to be on trial with a jury being told that they have to declare you guilty or be sacked? the whole impeachment process in the house was a kangaroo court and the reason Pelosi won't take it to the senate is that Trump will actually get a fair hearing. For them to argue the opposite and for people to believe it is perverse beyond belief.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/22/politics/van-drew-trump-gop-switch-impeachment/index.html
 
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Even so Biden admits on tape to holding back $1b until a Ukrainian prosecutor (investigating a company for corruption in which his son was involved in) got fired, the simple fact is if the Democrats had that same evidence (basically a confession) against Trump they wouldn't need to hold back going to the senate and a lot of Republicans would have likely to voted to impeach as well. If you read the transcript all Trump does is to ask Ukraine to look into corruption there's no overt threat like Biden has admitted to, Ukraine themselves deny being threatened.
Have you got some kind of intellectual blindness that you cannot understand that Biden did it as GOVERNMENT POLICY and with the agreement of multiple other countries?

Is it really that hard to understand the difference between passing along a requirement that has been agreed upon by his own country (and enacting legislation passed by it's government) and it's allies, done under the advice of law enforcement and intelligence angies, and done openly and with full disclosure of the reasons and doing something using personal cronies, behind closed doors, against your own government's official policies and those of the same allies purely to benefit yourself.

I might as well be banging my head against a brick wall for all the good it does to tray and talk facts with you.
 
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