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Jono8 said:
One could very much make the case at this point that supporting him raises many alarming questions about a persons ability to stay grounded in objective fact, judge the character of someone, have any integrity, hold some sort of moral compass.

You see the trouble, is that most of the time, arguments FOR Trump are not based on objective facts. This is why he has to lie and flip flop on everything all the time. There is no reasonable argument to be had.
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Which is the same position. You phrase it better and you're honest about completely excluding the possibility of a discussion, but it's the same position.

Maybe one of the people who claim that there's an attempt at a discussion somewhere in the >42,000 posts in the other thread will be able to provide an example.
 
Angilion said:
Which is the same position. You phrase it better and you're honest about completely excluding the possibility of a discussion, but it's the same position.

Maybe one of the people who claim that there's an attempt at a discussion somewhere in the >42,000 posts in the other thread will be able to provide an example.
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But that is the only position there is. It is like have an argument about whether the world is round or not.

Trump is (by almost any metric) an objectively awful person, and he is not fit to be president of the United States.
 
Angilion said:
Which is the same position. You phrase it better and you're honest about completely excluding the possibility of a discussion, but it's the same position.

Maybe one of the people who claim that there's an attempt at a discussion somewhere in the >42,000 posts in the other thread will be able to provide an example.
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I am going to post this again, as this is what applies right now when it comes to discussions about Trump -

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This is a similar poor argument to the crying of salty tears about things being echo chambers. Similar argument to your incorrect whinge I guess.

There are thousands of examples of people trying to engage with our resident TDF members. They all fail due to them just not engaging because they just cant offer anything.
 
tang0 said:
You're in shock that you think that can't be real, it must be fake news, no way someone other than Trump is acting like a dictator! Gateway is ignoring the truth! But you're a good boy using another website to tell you what to think before completely ignoring the content of the article which basically all it is, is a directly quoting from the local press which is exactly what the headline suggests
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I was not at all questioning whether the story was fake news, but rather feigning surprise that you chose to use a heavily biased, right-wing 'news' outlet which promotes baseless conspiracy theories.
Trusty said:
https://montanadailygazette.com/202...r-government-issued-arm-bands-to-do-business/

Is that better?
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No, not at all.

Oh look, it turns out that "The Valley County Health Department implemented a plan to help essential workers identify whether they had been there for over 14 days."
Also, it was a wrist band, not an arm band.
They used old Fair Pink wrist bands to show the public who had followed the self quartine rule and were out in public places. This was not a health order in the county, more of an accommodation to meet the public concern.
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https://www.krtv.com/news/coronavirus/valley-county-officials-explain-quarantine-wristbands

But sure, spin your right-wing ********, comparing naive local officials trying to stem the pandemic to the Nazis making Jews identifiable. Bravo.
 
tang0 said:
You didn't even read it did you :D:D:D:D
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You said arm band. Headline says arm band.
This Is Really Happening: Montana County Demands Citizens Wear Government-Issued Arm Bands to Shop at Grocery Stores …Update: Valley County Health Officials Respond, Apologize

Who is the purveyor of fake news now?

tang0 said:
Trump is a fascist, he's now demanding that citizens must wear a government-issued arm band in order to shop at grocery shops
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-oh, you ninja edited. unlucky.
 
tang0 said:
Article of an article of an article, stupid
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What?
I showed that the two articles which had been posted were both unreliable. I then found an article on the web site of a local news station which reported the story in a reasonably factual and unbiased manner. (It's literally the first result if you google Montana wrist bands)

What do you find stupid here?
 
Minusorange said:
Did he just say WW1 essentially ended because of a plague ?
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He also just said he hadn't left the White House in months, so I wouldn't take what he says as gospel.

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This is a total car crash. Not sure if it's worse than yesterday, but it's impressive drivel nonetheless.

This is from the BBC. Sorry @tang0
Quoting an apocryphal story about US Founding Father George Washington confessing to chopping down a cherry tree as a boy, Trump tells the White House briefing room: "I cannot tell a lie."

He made the comment as he called on a journalist whom he had earlier promised could ask a question.

Moments later, Trump said: "I haven't left the White House in months.”

A PBS reporter says: “You held a rally in March.”

Trump said with a shrug: “Did I hold a rally? I’m sorry, I held a rally!”
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What a joke of a briefing.
  • Trump was right
  • Everyone was wrong.
  • He/Team did a Great job
  • Receiving thanks on a job well done
  • Congratulating his administration on his success.
  • China's Fault
  • WTO's Fault
  • WHO's Fault
  • Democrat's fault
  • Governor's fault
  • Biden's fault
  • Pelosi's fault
  • USA should be paid for their aid
  • Allies have swindled USA
  • Boom Boom Boom (???)
  • Best testing in the world, Revolutionary
  • 5 minute testing
  • Big machine does day and half testing
  • US has done more testing than the world combined
  • Guaranteed Landslide victory coming just like the last time
  • Everyone loves him
  • He put on a "band" that saved million loves.
  • 50000 x 20 = 1 Million -_-
 
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If I had cash right now, surely taking a bet on all 1st world economies versus America would be worth a punt.

It feels like betting on a blind F1 driver crashing at some point.
 
mjt said:
No, not at all.

Oh look, it turns out that "The Valley County Health Department implemented a plan to help essential workers identify whether they had been there for over 14 days."
Also, it was a wrist band, not an arm band.

https://www.krtv.com/news/coronavirus/valley-county-officials-explain-quarantine-wristbands

But sure, spin your right-wing ********, comparing naive local officials trying to stem the pandemic to the Nazis making Jews identifiable. Bravo.
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Where did i compare it to Nazis making Jews identifiable?
 
chroniclard said:
This is a similar poor argument to the crying of salty tears about things being echo chambers. Similar argument to your incorrect whinge I guess.

There are thousands of examples of people trying to engage with our resident TDF members. They all fail due to them just not engaging because they just cant offer anything.
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You can't provide one example, let alone thousands. You are making untrue statements.
 
TheSwede said:
He didn't say that you personally did that. Didn't you read the article you posted a link too ??
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Erm..yes, he did. Just read his reply to me. I didn't pass judgement on the 'pink band' article, i was just pointing out the story was correct, MJT was trying to say the article was fake..

I'm just fed up of people automatically assuming an article from a right wing news source is fake..
 
Trusty said:
Erm..yes, he did. Just read his reply to me. I didn't pass judgement on the 'pink band' article, i was just pointing out the story was correct, MJT was trying to say the article was fake..

I'm just fed up of people automatically assuming an article from a right wing news source is fake..
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If you watch one of his coronavirus daily briefings what are your feelings on them?

The ones I've watched have been cringe worthy, unprofessional, self praising and aggressive at times. There is a massive difference between Mike Pence delivering statements and Donald Trump.

Do you have any opinion on them yourself? Room for improvement or are they a success?
 
Hedge said:
If you watch one of his coronavirus daily briefings what are your feelings on them?

The ones I've watched have been cringe worthy, unprofessional, self praising and aggressive at times. There is a massive difference between Mike Pence delivering statements and Donald Trump.

Do you have any opinion on them yourself? Room for improvement or are they a success?
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That's a pointless question to your average Trump supporter as they aren't capable of rational thought.
 
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