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I must admit, I'm bored with politics these days and am actively making an effort to disengage completely... but I do appreciate the entertainment value of this bloke's twitter/outbursts :D
 
If handling something poorly is murder then the World Health Organisation (and China) are responsible for 303,000 deaths and counting for covering it up and allowing it spread. Why are we still funding the WHO?

I do agree that Boris has been shamefully slow to close the borders and enact quarantine policy but even if he had done it day 1 it was too late because it had been covered up for so long at source.
China do have a small responsibility but the ultimate responsibility for how the situation is handled is the leader of each county. China doesn't control how other counties handles the situation that comes down to the leader. If the leader turns the virus into a complete disaster like Trump did when he had ample time to prepare and ample prewarning to limited the deaths and economic damage but instead went out to play golf. Then its almost entirely Trumps fault for how bad the US has been hit.

Ultimate responsibility comes down to the leader even Trump agrees with that. Trump made it very clear Obama had responsibility for all virus's that hit when he was in charge. He would shout about it all the time and how the deaths' where on Obama. The same apples now Trump is in charge the deaths are on Trump.
 

He keeps repeating this? He has also been asked by the media a few times now but unable to explain what it is exactly?

Seeing as “Obamagate” materialised shortly after Obama criticised Trump’s handling of the pandemic, and the President himself won’t expand on it, I can only surmise that offending Trump’s delicate sensibilities by doing anything other than persistently brown-nosing him is now a crime.
 
Considering Obamagreat was trending yesterday he's probably trying to keep it going.


If handling something poorly is murder then the World Health Organisation (and China) are responsible for 303,000 deaths and counting for covering it up and allowing it spread. Why are we still funding the WHO?

I do agree that Boris has been shamefully slow to close the borders and enact quarantine policy but even if he had done it day 1 it was too late because it had been covered up for so long at source.

We are still funding WHO because we need them. Honestly who else is going to do it? So you replace WHO, you need an international organisation that has to walk the tightrope of gaining access to countries and areas in that country that the government of that country might not want to give access to. You then need to get information from that governments agencies as they were there before you but they might not be keen to share, work out what exactly is going on and then get that out to the world without offending that country so badly that they kick you out. No one is saying WHO is perfect but the lies that they didn't warn us is just that, lies. Go search their twitter feed, you can search it by date and they were warning this could be very bad from early January.

What are you talking about? Boris hasn't closed anything. The borders are still open. But even if he had it was too late anyway was it? :rolleyes: so he gets a pass on his handling of it right? Can't imagine if Labour had been in control you'd have been so understanding.
 
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That's great but put up or shut up would have been better.

Its just ludicrous, how he can just randomly come out with any old nonsense and expect anyone to believe him. Isnt that slander? Its is blatantly a made up lie to distraction and deflect on the crisis on hand. Pretty poor as its been days since he been spouting this garbage and he still hasnt thought about what it actually means.
 
It's a disgrace, his words and actions are contributing to armed threats to Democrat senators.

https://www.newsweek.com/michigan-c...-armed-protesters-against-gov-whitmer-1504241

Dozens of posts in private invitation-only Facebook groups called for Whitmer to be hanged, lynched, shot, beaten or beheaded. One suggested crowdfunding sources to hire a hitman to kill her.

"We haven't had any bloodshed yet, but the populous [sic] is counting to three, and yesterday was day two," wrote Dave Meisenheimer in a 385,000-member Facebook group called Michiganders Against Excessive Quarantine. "Next comes the watering the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants," he concluded.

Numerous other posts referred to Whitmer as a "Nazi," "spawn of the devil," "wicked witch," "Soros puppet," "baby killer tyrant" and more, according to the Detroit Metro Times. Others promised to attend upcoming protests "armed to the death" and without face masks, threatening to attack any police officers who dared confront them.
 
And when something happens he wont take any responsibility if anyone gets hurt or killed. So all fine loading the gun by using divisive rhetoric but not his fault if there is crazies that take his words of encouragement.
 
And when something happens he wont take any responsibility if anyone gets hurt or killed. So all fine loading the gun by using divisive rhetoric but not his fault if there is crazies that take his words of encouragement.

You don't need to take responsibility when you can offer thoughts and prayers.
 
You know what is really mental about America and Trump's thoughts on masks/reopening everything etc?

The republicans constantly argue that people owning firearms and carrying them around can result in people's lives being saved (good guy with a gun etc).

Apply the same logic to wearing a mask.....

The veil has been lifted. These people don't carry guns around to save lives, otherwise they would have no problem with wearing a mask.
 
You know what is really mental about America and Trump's thoughts on masks/reopening everything etc?

The republicans constantly argue that people owning firearms and carrying them around can result in people's lives being saved (good guy with a gun etc).

Apply the same logic to wearing a mask.....

The veil has been lifted. These people don't carry guns around to save lives, otherwise they would have no problem with wearing a mask.

They never said they did, they carry because because they consider it a God given right to carry arms. Individually they consider it their right to have the means to protect themselves and their homes. If I get confronted by someone with a weapon in the UK (unlikely), or simply by someone who is bigger, stronger, a better fighter, or there are multiple opponents, the government have left me defenceless because I am not afforded the right to carry a weapon. In America they have decided that your right to defend yourself as an individual is a God given right. In the UK we've chosen to statistically reduce the chance you'll perhaps be confronted by someone with a weapon by banning them, but if that does happen and you are a law obiding citizen, you are left defenceless, or at the mercy of hoping there's law enforcement nearby.
 
You don't need to take responsibility when you can offer thoughts and prayers.

The worst thing "thoughts and prayers" are just words to him -

Thoughts - he doesnt normally think about anyone other than himself and his immediate circle.

Prayers - well we have all seen this embarrassing moment. Seems to indicate he knows little to nothing about the bible or even religion. Do you prefer old testament or new testament = equal LoL!!!

 
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