You come across as a sad stalker type, you are as obsessed with me and my age as you are with orange man bad.
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You come across as a sad stalker type, you are as obsessed with me and my age as you are with orange man bad.
Its not deflection if its not true. Where the evidence to support that CT?
I very much doubt there is any kind of balanced discussion...
Who said I have been banned from there? If so, what for?
Sigh, you know it's true and on video....
https://pjmedia.com/trending/did-joe-biden-implicate-barack-obama-in-ukraine-quid-pro-quo-scandal/
It isn't true though.
Show me the video. Not the one where he talks about withholding the aid. The one you supposedly have of him saying it is because he wants them to end the investigation into Burisma.
Sigh? Its completely baseless with no actual evidence so if there was any substance he would be in hot water right now which is more can be said to your orange idol.
1. What did Biden’s son do in Ukraine?
After his father became vice president in 2009, Hunter Biden, a lawyer by training, pursued business opportunities with foreign parties, often in ways that intersected with his father’s work. In 2014, Cyprus-registered Burisma Holdings, one of the largest private natural gas companies in Ukraine, announced that Hunter Biden was among several prominent foreigners who were joining its board. The company said that Hunter Biden would advise on “transparency, corporate governance and responsibility, international expansion and other priorities.” He remained on the board until earlier this year, and court records suggest he was earning at least $50,000 a month for his service.
2. What was wrong with that?
There’s nothing illegal (or even that unusual) about people with impressive last names accepting lucrative gigs as corporate directors -- though the younger Biden has been called out for, as one article put it, his “attempts to cash in on the family name.” Even Joe Biden seemed to have been aware that the optics weren’t ideal. Hunter Biden told the New Yorker that on the only occasion they discussed Burisma, “Dad said, ‘I hope you know what you are doing.’” Hunter Biden now says that in hindsight, serving on Burisma’s board may have been “poor judgment,” though he maintains he didn’t do anything improper.
3. Why did Burisma come under scrutiny?
Its founder, Mykola Zlochevsky, served as Ukraine’s minister of ecology and natural resources under President Viktor Yanukovych, who was swept from office by mass protests in 2014. Following that uprising, Western governments pressed Ukraine’s new leaders to investigate corruption. One of the initial subjects was Zlochevsky, who was accused of money laundering and abuse of power. Zlochevsky has denied any wrongdoing.
4. What criminal charges came out of this?
None. Burisma issued a statement in 2017 saying that “all legal proceedings and pending criminal allegations” against it and Zlochevsky were closed and that it paid an extra 180 million hryvnias ($7 million) in taxes. There’s also no known evidence that any of the investigations ever involved Hunter Biden. Ukraine’s former prosecutor general, Yuriy Lutsenko, told Bloomberg News in May that there was no evidence of wrongdoing by the Bidens.
5. What does Trump say?
Without substantiation, Trump has said and tweeted that the Biden family “was paid off, pure and simple” and accused the family of corruption, extortion and “pillaging” foreign countries. He’s called them “stone-cold crooked” and publicly urged Ukraine and China to open criminal investigations of them. (Trump’s contention that Hunter Biden flew to Beijing aboard the vice president’s aircraft and left a billionaire -- the episode he wants China to investigate -- isn’t supported by the available facts, either. Still, Hunter Biden said he’s resigning from the board of a Chinese-backed private equity company and would forgo all foreign work if his father is elected president.)
6. Where does Joe Biden fit in?
Biden, as the Obama administration’s point person on Ukraine, pressed successfully for the ouster of Viktor Shokin as Ukraine’s prosecutor general in 2016. At the heart of the allegation by Trump and his attorney, Rudy Giuliani, is that Biden did so to derail an investigation into Burisma. “Joe Biden promised Ukraine $1 billion if they fired the prosecutor investigating his son’s company,” the Trump re-election campaign says in a television commercial running in states holding early presidential primary elections.
7. What evidence suggests that was Biden’s motive?
Pretty much none. The problem with Shokin -- in the eyes of U.S. leaders, their Western allies, the International Monetary Fund and many Ukrainians -- wasn’t that he was being too aggressive about corruption, but that he was being far too lax. In May, Bloomberg News reported that prosecutors in Ukraine had shelved the investigation into Zlochevsky by 2015, meaning Hunter Biden didn’t stand to benefit from the prosecutor’s ouster. Vitaliy Kasko, who pursued the case against Burisma’s owner as deputy prosecutor and is now first deputy prosecutor in the new government, told Bloomberg News that there had been no U.S. pressure to close that case. Former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko also told Bloomberg News that Biden never asked him to close any cases. @Jono8 i will answer for him if he cant.
8. Where did all these allegations come from?
The notion that Hunter Biden and his father could be complicit in Ukrainian corruption was first aired in a 2018 book, “Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends.” Its author, Peter Schweizer, is an editor at Breitbart News and president of the Government Accountability Institute, a nonprofit group founded by former Trump political adviser Steve Bannon. The group’s board chairwoman is Rebekah Mercer, a prominent Trump supporter. Trump has cited Schweizer by name in some of his Twitter attacks on the Bidens. But even Schweizer’s book doesn’t allege that any laws were broken.
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Of course it got quieter in SC as the bulk of bias eco chamber nonsense was coming from you and you stopped posting there so everyone else could get onto real balanced educated debates which you clearly have no interest in.
You did by the way your posts are inferring you have a ban. Which is why I used the word “if” in reference to a possible ban. You had chance to post otherwise but as per normal you ran away from my post.
Just like you run way from all the facts and evidence I give you to backup my posts and you run away from simple questions on Biden and other reasonable debate questions.
If you did get a ban it would have been for the constant lying, breaking the rules and failing to have a reasonable balanced debate despite being given the chance multiple times.
Right I ignored by own advice. plasmahal has no intention of debating honestly - we have yet again fallen into his troll pit. He doesn't care what type of attention he gets.
He will defend Trump until his last breath, he doesn't care about evidence, it will always be Biden/Clinton/Obama's fault or they did said crime worse, he just wants reactions. Rob may have had a point earlier but it's not Trump himself we get annoyed at - I have yet to see one single person on this forum defend Trump honestly or with critical thinking (it's because it's nearly impossible) so the only thing to do is troll or debate dishonestly.
The only goal for him in this thread and why he's acting like a kid in a sweet shop is....
We all know what we must do - don't feed him.
He will defend Trump until his last breath, he doesn't care about evidence, it will always be Biden/Clinton/Obama's fault or they did said crime worse, he just wants reactions. Rob may have had a point earlier but it's not Trump himself we get annoyed at - I have yet to see one single person on this forum defend Trump honestly or with critical thinking (it's because it's nearly impossible) so the only thing to do is troll or debate dishonestly.
The only goal for him in this thread and why he's acting like a kid in a sweet shop is....
We all know what we must do - don't feed him.
Haha don’t flatter yourself.
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Yes we are as bad as each other. One side is CT theories, resistance to facts, refusal to answer questions, deflections and lies. The other..... Wait.... Why are we as bad?
So who's more the fool?
SC doesn't interest me, I can read wikipedia all by myselfI advise you stay away from the Trump Sc thread, they seem to get very obsessive about ppl and especially their age.
This I'm not disputing, it's the continued repetitive borderline childish debate that doesn't need to span the entire forum.
I don't bother replying completely to @dowie at times because I don't want to be suckered in to a pointless debate surrounding semantics and ever changing goalposts, but if I did continually reply and repeat I'd be just as bad as him. No offence, just an example that springs to mind.
What a surprise again you show your lack of understanding on how debates work. Just because you yet again showed you lack of knowledge it doesn't mean Urban dictionary is some random rare site. Really, is that the best you have for being proven wrong yet again? Nothing in the Wikipedia disproves the Urban dictionary page we linked to.
I also see you didn't respond or deny anything in my posts again. I guess the truth hurts to much which is why you rarely respond. The same reason you cannot respond to my reasonable fair debate questions like the one on Biden and others. Its no wonder you are not around SC anymore.
Plasmahal posted a good video the other day from the Hoover Institute, you ignored what 2 constitutional lawyers were saying regarding the impeachment, you can't honestly say you are debating in good faith either, can you?
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