Don't get burgled!

Raumarik · 28 Jul 2015 at 15:52

Glaucus said:
They would attend if a crime is in progress this wouldn't change.
2ndly only if CPS belived you were using reasonable force.

They'll attend if they have officers in the area, we have two for a population of over 800,000 most days in my region, yes they can call in from outside that but who's to say those aren't busy and they're less likely to know the area.

Police staffing levels on the front line are shockingly low.

zola25 · 28 Jul 2015 at 16:21

FortuitousFluke said:
Unfortunately on previous form the most likely candidate is Richard Branson, and I'm just not sure he's got it in him.

He's 65 now, can't see it either. Maybe he could fund someone else though...

thedoc46 · 28 Jul 2015 at 16:40

Glad i live in a country, where the stand your ground & castle law exists. Any home owner has certain protections and immunities permitting him or her, in certain circumstances, to use force (up to and including deadly force) to defend himself or herself against an intruder, free from legal responsibility/prosecution for the consequences of the force used. Be it bludgeoned by some antique statue, or better still a foot wide hole blown in their torso by a 12gauge... It law stands behind the property owner.

Completely eliminates the chav element of one breaking into your home, looking for a few quid, that plagues many parts of Britain.

FortuitousFluke · 28 Jul 2015 at 16:46

thedoc46 said:
Completely eliminates the chav element of one breaking into your home, looking for a few quid, that plagues many parts of Britain.

You're saying that breaking and entering is a thing of the past in America?

MikeTheNative · 28 Jul 2015 at 16:52

FortuitousFluke said:
You're saying that breaking and entering is a thing of the past in America?

Look zero burglary.

scorza · 28 Jul 2015 at 17:10

FortuitousFluke said:
I was of course joking, the police force do an incrediblty difficult job on an ever shrinking budget, much like most other public sector organisations. Unfortunately it's only going to get worse, and that means cutting things that can be described as "non-essential".

No they don't. They're doomed to failure by budget and policy and they do the job they're charged with very poorly as a result. Despite what they'd like you to think, police officers aren't super-men - they're just ordinary people, micro-managed and de-skilled to the max.

Longbow · 28 Jul 2015 at 18:30

ShaolinDreams said:
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/sep/11/stevenmorris

This was an old friend of mine. Bit extreme but things like this really happen.

What was the long black thing in the end then? And where did the knife come from?

TheVoice · 28 Jul 2015 at 18:41

thedoc46 said:
Glad i live in a country, where the stand your ground & castle law exists. Any home owner has certain protections and immunities permitting him or her, in certain circumstances, to use force (up to and including deadly force) to defend himself or herself against an intruder, free from legal responsibility/prosecution for the consequences of the force used. Be it bludgeoned by some antique statue, or better still a foot wide hole blown in their torso by a 12gauge... It law stands behind the property owner.

Completely eliminates the chav element of one breaking into your home, looking for a few quid, that plagues many parts of Britain.

The fact you need a "stand your ground" law says it all though. I'd rather be burgled in the UK than in the US.

koolpc · 28 Jul 2015 at 18:59

"Hello, is that the police?"

"Yes mam, how can i help you?"

"Some one has stolen my house!"

"Ok, put the kettle on and we will be around in a few days"

insane200 · 28 Jul 2015 at 20:04

Burnsy2023 said:
So investigating child abuse, online fraud or sexual assaults isn't real policing?

Never said they were stopping that did I !!! instead of wasting time sitting around in a van doing sod all, they could be sending police to burglaries :eek:

arknor · 28 Jul 2015 at 20:07

insane200 said:
Never said they were stopping that did I !!! instead of wasting time sitting around in a van doing sod all, they could be sending police to burglaries

Clearly not worth their time wasting police resources on regular people

Policing in the community is pretty much dead, the only time I see a policeman on foot is when it's summer...

thedoc46 · 28 Jul 2015 at 20:28

TheVoice said:
The fact you need a "stand your ground" law says it all though. I'd rather be burgled in the UK than in the US.

It's actually originally an English law, however as it became more and more of a nanny state, taking away people's rights and wanting absolute socialised government control, you're now just left to fend for yourselves with erm, a phone call to 999, whilst the actual criminals are laughing at the fact they'll just get a slap on hand for helping themselves.

insane200 · 28 Jul 2015 at 20:44

arknor said:
Clearly not worth their time wasting police resources on regular people

Policing in the community is pretty much dead, the only time I see a policeman on foot is when it's summer...

This is where pcso's should be utilised, they don't have the powers of arrest, but at least the victim,community would feel like something is being done.

StriderX · 28 Jul 2015 at 20:50

insane200 said:
This is where pcso's should be utilised, they don't have the powers of arrest, but at least the victim,community would feel like something is being done.

Dont they tend to harass Homeless people and little girls though? (Community Police)

insane200 · 28 Jul 2015 at 20:52

StriderX said:
Dont they tend to harass Homeless people and little girls though? (Community Police)

Yep, sorry, forgot they are busy doing that lol, Time neighbour hood watch stepped up to the job.

Uther · 28 Jul 2015 at 20:54

PCSO's are for the chop aren't they? Cutbacks...

StriderX · 28 Jul 2015 at 20:57

Just deploy a whole fleet of Predators, people will think twice before doing...anything.

:mad:

Muhahahha

estebanrey · 28 Jul 2015 at 20:57

Police Priority List

1) Solving anything heavily covered by the media.
2) Anything that annoys/inconveniences affluent people.
3) Getting stats looking good by nabbing the low hanging fruit (e.g. people speeding).
4) Exciting stuff, like dressing up like a commando and raiding the houses of people selling weed.
5) Everything Else.

scorza · 28 Jul 2015 at 20:59

estebanrey said:
Police Priority List

1) Solving anything heavily covered by the media.
2) Anything that annoys/inconveniences affluent people.
3) Getting stats looking good by nabbing the low hanging fruit (e.g. people speeding).
4) Exciting stuff, like dressing up like a commando and raiding the houses of people selling weed.
5) Everything Else.

Uther · 28 Jul 2015 at 21:01

estebanrey said:
Police Priority List

1) Solving anything heavily covered by the media.
2) Anything that annoys/inconveniences affluent people.
3) Getting stats looking good by nabbing the low hanging fruit (e.g. people speeding).
4) Exciting stuff, like dressing up like a commando and raiding the houses of people selling weed.
5) Everything Else.

My mates priority right now is getting a payout of 91k, with a pension of 15k for a 10% disability...