Doom 3 - BFG edition

buchtis · 22 Oct 2012 at 15:55

Jesus Christ, i've just seen some comparison screenshots of the original DooM 3 against the BFG edition and I don't know if the comparison is biased but the lighting and textures actually look better in the older DooM 3!

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/5520/d3bfghallwindow.jpg

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/5720/d3bfgoffice.jpg

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3825/d3bfgsurfacen.jpg

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/6472/d3bfglobby.jpg

What an utter embarrassment.

Seb5009 · 22 Oct 2012 at 16:15

idd I have downloaded Doom 3 and modding it with PERFECTED DOOM 3 + monoxeads + wulfens texture pack. It looks so much better then BFG. And now with my 670 I can get good fps. Only bad thing is when I put monoxeads and wulfens in most of the screens (in game) have gone black. Might have to start over again as I did not save it before I started :rolleyes:

~>Dg<~ · 22 Oct 2012 at 16:24

thats what so many dont get it okay saying the original looks better with mods but what about the bugs and issues you get with these mods ?

i had numerous mods together with original and it did look great but ....

the issues that came with running took a lot of the fun out of the game. bad load in bad graphic glitches other errors .

you cant release a game how it is with these glitches .

dont know why people keep going on about it its already been mentioned on twitter to be nearly done by cormack himself

also you can adjust somethings yourself with bfg to make it better anyway.

RavenXXX2 · 22 Oct 2012 at 16:31

lol Ill state again.

BFG weapons do not cast light when fired, so no lighting effect and it's a massive submission from the game as the lighting looks cool.

BFG torch does not cast dynamic shadows.

Orginal DOOM 3 does all of these, obviously they were dropped form BFG when they direct ported over the console code, lazy devs. DOOM 3 is simply the better game even without mods.

gothic_hobbit · 22 Oct 2012 at 17:05

It’s true that id Software had troubles with the console version of Doom 3: BFG. Our guess is that Carmack decided to ditch the dynamic shadows that are casted by the flashlight in order to gain a bit more performance on consoles

They should have released an Wii U Version.

I'm sure that console would have no such problems.

~>Dg<~ · 22 Oct 2012 at 18:03

haha you cant win

just wait until the mods are working and you have the better performance of this version and the mods should be soon .

arc@css · 22 Oct 2012 at 18:14

I was hoping the lost missions would be in new areas. Don't see the point at all of me buying this now, even when it eventually becomes dirt cheap in something like a Steam sale.

RavenXXX2 · 22 Oct 2012 at 18:15

Check these screens out, top one is original doom 3 with no mods, lower one is BFG. Looks like BFG has caught some of the blurry mega textures as seen in rage courtesy if Id tech 5.

Purdy · 22 Oct 2012 at 18:36

So what settings are both those screenshots on?

RavenXXX2 · 22 Oct 2012 at 18:44

Doom 3 is on Ultra and BFG is default as there is not in game IQ settings apart from AA and blur.

blueshift · 22 Oct 2012 at 18:49

Arcane said:
Sounds like a lot of whining about nothing. Mod support for BFG is coming. PC gamers have had D3 for 8 years, isn't it glaringly obvious to them that this release is aimed at consoles? Get a fan base before D4=profit. Buy the original if life becomes unbearable without mods for a week or so, otherwise enjoy the new one in 3D/Oculus Rift or play it maxxed out at 120hz.

As regards the RAGE editor, most people on here whined about RAGE "sucking" and being a shoddy "Port", now we get whining about an Editor not being released for a game everyone (apart from me, it seems) hated anyway.

You couldn't make it up.

yup

~>Dg<~ · 22 Oct 2012 at 20:21

haha the comedy continues if your screenshots look like that you doing it wrong

RavenXXX2 most obvious fail screenshots ever

the pic has no aa on or something

one i just took in bfg

Arcane · 22 Oct 2012 at 21:33

RavenXXX2 said:
Doom 3 is on Ultra and BFG is default as there is not in game IQ settings apart from AA and blur.

The reason there are no in game IQ settings in BFG is because it's set to Ultra by default. Modern hardware (and fairly old for that matter) can max it easily so they decided not to include it.

RavenXXX2 · 22 Oct 2012 at 21:41

Arcane said:
The reason there are no in game IQ settings in BFG is because it's set to Ultra by default. Modern hardware (and fairly old for that matter) can max it easily so they decided not to include it.

Did you miss the part where they left out dynamic shadows cast from the torch light and lighting effects from gun fire? IQ settings would have been nice to turn them back on, agree?

~>Dg<~ · 23 Oct 2012 at 09:41

pt 5

Arcane · 23 Oct 2012 at 11:09

RavenXXX2 said:
Did you miss the part where they left out dynamic shadows cast from the torch light and lighting effects from gun fire? IQ settings would have been nice to turn them back on, agree?

Being a PC Gamer I like as many options as possible, even if I don't need them.

This release is geared towards the console boys, as far as that goes, it's a great achievement, the PC version is only worth buying if you want the extra toys it comes with, if you're playing it at 60hz in 2D then buy the original, it's got all you would need and it's been available for 8 years.

I'll get it for the 3D and lost mission levels.

barmyllama · 23 Oct 2012 at 11:14

Seb5009 said:
You can get it off Amazon for £14 with free P/P
Or
Get it from Game online and get it for £15 free P/P. And get Rage for free (I got this one)

So did I and sold Rage for £9 on eBay.

Seb5009 · 23 Oct 2012 at 11:42

barmyllama said:
So did I and sold Rage for £9 on eBay.

lol nice

~>Dg<~ · 24 Oct 2012 at 11:27

for those qq about shadows cast by the torch

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/578970618085544072/35C4FD03B392CF716EF5837464BE5A42CE1AC14A/

https://twitter.com/idBrianHarris/status/260772307759419392

also adding changable fov option for those to lazy to add to config

pt 6 of my walk through

ubersonic · 26 Oct 2012 at 21:01

My girlfriend bought me this as a present because she knows I love iD games (she's right, I have pretty much all off them and I got the original Doom on release having played leaked betas). So ive been playing Doom 3 BFG and having lots of fun (despite having owned Doom III since 2004

).

Now for the honesty about this piece of garbage.

**** you Bethesda!, this is the absolute worst job of a Doom port in history, at least the morons who produced the Sega 32X port had an excuse (the console was junk and the game could never compare to the original) but this is ridiculous, you have taken an 8 year old game and made no improvements despite knowing it would be used on much more advanced hardware than was available at the time (the most powerful GPU in Doom III's day would lose a 3dmark battle with an Intel HD iGPU).

Let me further explain this ridiculous travesty:

Firstly, my G/F paid £20 for this off Steam, that's over three hours wages for her. A original copy of Doom III can be had on disc for under £5 off eBay. Now granted the BFG edition does have the expansion pack and a couple of bonus levels but you can get the expansion for like £2 off eBay, so that's £7 for used copies or £10 for new copies.

Secondly, and more importantly, It doesn't look as good, Yeah I know it surprised me too, but Doom III with all the settings maxxed out looks visually superior to Doom 3 BFG! (which has no advanced graphics options) And if that wasn't bad enough Doom III with the free Sikkmod addon looks so much better than Doom 3 BFG that you would think one was running on an engine from a different generation.

AVOID THIS "GAME" LIKE THE PLAGUE!

/Rant