Dragon Age Inquisition

Pighardia said:
FFS why does everyone need people to tell them what to think!?...There are dozens of hours of gameplay footage on YT. If you can't decide on the game based on that then I don't know.
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I don't understand why you're so worked up about a simple question :confused:

Relax man he's just asked for someone's opinion not an essay on the subject.

Enigma someone has already said and I agree, the game is not as sandboxy (it's a word!) as Skyrim and so far I haven't even heard if modding the game will be an option, although the other 2 games were moddable.

I'm sure I just made up about 3 words there.
 
ICEx21 said:
I don't understand why you're so worked up about a simple question :confused:
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I'm not getting worked up, I'm just getting a bit annoyed with every single thread whenever a new game is released having people come in saying they will 'wait for reviews' as if it is some kind of badge of honour(along with the other one of 'I never pre-order')....Wait for reviews to tell you what exactly? Reviews are not needed when all of the info is readily available.

^^Shame, as Origins had some really good mods
 
Eurogamer reviews for the most part tend to echo my own sentiments on games. With Witcher 3 not long off and a backlog of games to play I think I'll pass this up for now as it doesn't seem to grab me from the gameplay videos I've watched and the review hasn't altered that feeling.
 
Pighardia said:
I'm not getting worked up, I'm just getting a bit annoyed with every single thread whenever a new game is released having people come in saying they will 'wait for reviews' as if it is some kind of badge of honour(along with the other one of 'I never pre-order')....Wait for reviews to tell you what exactly? Reviews are not needed when all of the info is readily available
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Depends really. There's so many games out there that you end up pre-ordering and they turn out to be a waste of money. We aren't looking for one or two websites to tell us it's worth getting, we are looking to see if the overall reception from users and review sites is positive.

A good example is Lords of the Fallen, where initially it looked liek a great game, but after purchasing it and playing on launch day, it crashed like every 15 minutes making it literally unplayable.
If I had waited, I'd of seen the overall user reception was poor, alerting you to the situation and to ultimately wait for patches before purchasing.
 
Pighardia said:
I'm not getting worked up, I'm just getting a bit annoyed with every single thread whenever a new game is released having people come in saying they will 'wait for reviews' as if it is some kind of badge of honour(along with the other one of 'I never pre-order')....Wait for reviews to tell you what exactly? Reviews are not needed when all of the info is readily available.

^^Shame, as Origins had some really good mods
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The info in most cases isn't readily available unless you think select bites from publishers designed to show the game off in the best light counts. Even with the footage available with DAI there isn't remotely enough to gauge how good a game is given there is apparently 200hr gameplay time. Not to mention most peoples concern with the game, depth / story etc, isn't something that can be judged from snippets of gameplay.

Waiting for reviews and not pre-ordering are perfectly acceptable and in fact a recommended stances to take given the ******** consumers are fed by publishers for them all important day 1 sales. It seems a sensible thing to do, before plonking your hard earned cash down, to wait for a "review" from like minded people who have played the entire game to gauge how enjoyable said game may be to you. That doesn't equal "wait for an IGN 9.5 score" but in many peoples cases waiting for end user reviews or reviewers you share common likes/dislikes with.

I find it odd you would even complain about such statements or stances to be honest.
 
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Craterloads said:
I find it odd you would even complain about such statements or stances to be honest.
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I don't mind people having these stances, but to act like people who do not wait for other people to review games or who do pre-order games are somehow wrong is ridiculous. In some cases as well, it is the only stance to take as devs often try to hold back as much info as possible(hence why I will not be pre-ordering AC:Unity).

These things need to be broke down as simply as possible with as little input from other people as possible imo. A simple gameplay video, no commentary, no input from devs or marketing from a publisher, nobody else's opinion. All power to the consumer.

Even with the footage available with DAI there isn't remotely enough to gauge how good a game is given there is apparently 200hr gameplay time.
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Nobody can tell you this. You have to decide for yourself is the point I am trying to make. All you really need to tell before playing it for yourself is if it is worth your time in order to make your own mind up.

Anyway, it is pointless going round in circles. I simply can't understand how people can't come to their own conclusions.
 
Pighardia said:
Nobody can tell you this. You have to decide for yourself is the point I am trying to make. All you really need to tell before playing it for yourself is if it is worth your time in order to make your own mind up.
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My time is valuable, so I'm quite happy to have people spend time playing the game precisely so they can tell me this, thanks very much :D

It mightn't be how you see it, but there's a whole industry built around the notion that a lot of people think otherwise.
 
Pighardia said:
I don't mind people having these stances, but to act like people who do not wait for other people to review games or who do pre-order games are somehow wrong is ridiculous. In some cases as well, it is the only stance to take as devs often try to hold back as much info as possible(hence why I will not be pre-ordering AC:Unity).
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Perhaps that's just how you have perceived things, I don't think I've seen anyone call others wrong for pre-ordering?

These things need to be broke down as simply as possible with as little input from other people as possible imo. A simple gameplay video, no commentary, no input from devs or marketing from a publisher, nobody else's opinion. All power to the consumer.
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A simple gameplay video surely isn't enough to judge the game in it's entirety? Perhaps that segment is good and the rest of the game is crap. I know of many games that have few good parts and lots of mediocre parts that I wouldn't want to part with £40 for. Not to mention your solution doesn't appear to be workable to begin with given it is up to the publisher what is shown (best bits), hence having to make the best of the situation presented. If someone who shares similar likes and dislikes to yourself and is in a position to play a game in its entirety it would be silly not to use their perception of the game as a gauge.


Nobody can tell you this. You have to decide for yourself is the point I am trying to make. All you really need to tell before playing it for yourself is if it is worth your time in order to make your own mind up.
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Hence why I said "gauge how enjoyable said game may be to you" from "like minded people". It isn't really that hard to grasp. And no, watching a snippet on YouTube, I'm afraid, isn't enough to competently decide if something is worth £40-£70 or to be able to make up your mind, hence allowing like minded gamers who are actually in a position to play the game in its entirety act as a gauge.

Anyway, it is pointless going round in circles. I simply can't understand how people can't come to their own conclusions.
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Because we haven't played the game, seems like the obvious answer? That's what a conclusion would entail surely?
 
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I skipped DA2 because it looked gash. DA:O was one of my favourite games ever though. Anyone know if I am going to be at any sort of disadvantage (story or otherwise) from skipping DA2 completely?
 
Pighardia said:
FFS why does everyone need people to tell them what to think!?...There are dozens of hours of gameplay footage on YT. If you can't decide on the game based on that then I don't know.
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Because reviews generally give a good aggregated view of how good a game is, which an early play-through etc may not (and usually doesn't) always show? It's not really rocket science why many people wait a day or two for detailed critical opinions before parting with their hard-earned cash.
 
Today has been a massive success for Bioware, helped enormously by the quite astonishingly, consistently awful Ubisoft!... No review copies sent out for Rogue, embargoes, reports of appalling performance on both consoles and PC. Whilst Dragon Age has its embargo lifted a full week before release, and gets rave-reviews Yep, Bioware can sit back with a massive grin on their face!
 
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