Dragon Age: The Veilguard
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Caporegime
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are we sure DF are real and proper reviewers?
Apparently they are part owned by IGN
So it's an agreement regarding written content. But still a non trust worthy source for this game
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Just watching Heelvs stream tonight, and they had a section on this and the chat options and cut scenes look awful 
Could it be that it actually is a good game for its intended market?
And it's intended market is for a new generation of gamers (hence the new Disney graphics ) and not those who enjoyed the first couple of iterations of the game. (Should they have called it something else instead?)
That is an awful lot of reviewers that are impressed with the game and I highly doubt they are all in cahoots to give rave reviews.
Would people's thoughts be the same if the game was re-done to have no connection to the dragon age of old?
Individual tastes I suppose,
Helldivers 2 got rave reviews, and was generally liked across the board... Yet I couldn't stand it (was actually annoyed I payed £45 for a game based on the reviews and I ended up disliking it, no matter how much I tried to enjoy it). .
The above said, having read the reviews and individuals thoughts I'm gonna skip this, seems like it needs too much attention to play it
And it's intended market is for a new generation of gamers (hence the new Disney graphics ) and not those who enjoyed the first couple of iterations of the game. (Should they have called it something else instead?)
That is an awful lot of reviewers that are impressed with the game and I highly doubt they are all in cahoots to give rave reviews.
Would people's thoughts be the same if the game was re-done to have no connection to the dragon age of old?
Individual tastes I suppose,
Helldivers 2 got rave reviews, and was generally liked across the board... Yet I couldn't stand it (was actually annoyed I payed £45 for a game based on the reviews and I ended up disliking it, no matter how much I tried to enjoy it). .
The above said, having read the reviews and individuals thoughts I'm gonna skip this, seems like it needs too much attention to play it
I can't see why you wouldn't trust that particular review. Did you simply read the thumbnail and come to a conclusion?
Tbh, I haven't bought a game on launch since the Rome Total War 2 debacle, and I tend to buy only when cheap, finished and fixed - you end up paying less for the best experience.
Trouble is these days, people can't wait to flex that they "grabbed" domething on pre-order etc - they're completely brainwashed into consumerism in away I never thought I'd see, the concept that people would actually line up pay in advance for a game that might be dogwater is still absolutely wild to me - but they got away with it...and it has killed gaming, but people wonlt listen, they'd still rather hand over £70 in advance...mugs.
If it is a game I consider must play as I like the franchise or something then I will happily preorder it. I see no downsides for me doing so personally.
Game turns out to be crap and gets lots of bad reviews? I cancel the preorder. Turns out good enough for me? I benefit from grabbing it cheap by ordering early.
I have benefited many times preordering. Usually save 5-10 quid at cdkeys doing this. My latest one is STALKER 2. Got for £25. Let's see what it will cost on release day
Appart from that I agree. Majority of my games I get way after release. Save money and mrk will have done beta testing for me
The main issues are the poor uninspiring character designs with graphics that looks like they’re from 2010, dour facial animations, dialogue that appears to be written for/by children, boring repetitive combat system.
The trans stuff just compounds all the above and further puts people off as half the point in playing fantasy RPGs is to immerse yourself into a fantasy world away from all the real life politics.
Huh ? EA/Bioware chose to use the DEI features as the main thrust of their marketing campaign / trailers. You really do live in an alternate universe, Vincent.
Just watching Heelvs stream tonight, and they had a section on this and the chat options and cut scenes look awful
From what I gather the entire game has went out of its way to be as uncombative as possible, in every sense from a story perspective.
- You can't actually play a bad guy like in past games, it's good to soft anti-hero.
- There's no real conflict between your companions, they have one or two very gentle disagreements but quickly laugh it off.
- The in game "morality" system which is supposed to dictate party interactions more or less doesn't work, because there's never any real areas for contention.
- Everything is super safe, your dialogue options are slim and while there are lightly heated moments they're poorly rendered to the point of "my face hurts" from Andromeda, but that leads into a different problem entirely.
It all has the impression of, "wave your hands in the air, rather than clap, because you might make someone anxious!"
(Edit in regard to the weird formatting, I'm lazy and frankly the way it works on the forum is not great. I should never have used the built in tools, I'm not disparaging the forum either for context! I doubt many use those features and I assume this sort of setup is difficult to deal with.)
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I think one of the more critical reviewers has said it's like playing DA but with HR in the room with you.
Who is the intended market for this game ? That's the golden question. Certainly doesn't appear to longstanding fans of the original DA game. And, if you read back a few pages you'd note that most of these early reviews have been given by selected EA partners ie. there is a strong degree of positive bias. I trust Digital Foundry enough to believe the game is technically competent, but that isn't the main issue here. It's the game as a whole, the content, alleged poor writing, lack of player agency within game and forced inclusion of DEI practices. It's almost certain review scores are going to drift downward over the next week or so.
Which is about as damning a statement as is possible. Sounds horrible.
I imagine it's aimed more at the next generation of dragon age enthusiasts rather than the originals.
DEI practices are likely here to stay it seems to be the way the world is going, just because it doesn't suit you or me, it may well suit who they're targeting, which is likely teenagers, or the next generation of nerds who seem to be trans biased ....
It's too safe for a game that was bordering on horror at times at the start of the series, remember the Mothers? They were flipping horrifying, a lot of it was. It was dark fantasy, but they've not only turned it into a pixar movie visually but flushed those elements down the toilet, some of the best parts of the original was the back and forth between characters. If you took some that didn't get on in a mission they'd argue with some hella spite while you ran about, it was bloody brilliant!
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It got really, really dark with some horrible choices and situations. What the hell is this new version, who wants this other than middle aged (usually millennials) with poorly treated mental health?
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Like everything in life now :/
Everyone pretending and playing along with the whole thing, just to keep a small number of people from having a loud meltdown.
That mythical audience, which doesn't exist judging by the failures of similar media. Microsoft and other companies are already on record admitting the younger generations don't play these sort of games. Mobile devices & "forever games" eg. Fortnite rule their world.