Drink Driving

one thing i am concerned about is that as Mike said, 20-25 years ago, drink driving was more acceptable than it is now. today its seen as the devil's past time

nowadays, speeding is seen as almost acceptable, everyone does it.

in 20-25 years time, whose betting that speeding is almost completely stamped out due to the campaigners

Well yes, they are going after speeding in the same fashion with things like the Think! adverts etc. it was a slow process with drink driving, and it will be a slow process with speeding, but I will not be surprised if in 25 years time speeding has the same stigma attached to it.
 
If I was banned from driving I would:

a) Lose my job as can't get to work.
b) Have to learn to drive again (the 'correct' way for the test)
c) Be looked down upon by people (and rightly so).

I just wouldn't do it, the rules are clear and if you get caught then you must be accountable for your actions, 'I was drunk' only works when you pulled a munter when you were 16.
 
A very good friend of mine picked up a 2yr ban (may have been 3 but this was over 10yrs ago) for being over 3x the limit.
Neither I or any of our mutual friends let him off with a "bad luck chap". Called him a "tuesday ending word" the moment he told me the next day and he got the same for months after.
The conversation started with the abuse, which he accepted without argument, and concluded that we were both happy his moment of lunacy had only cost him rather than anyone else.

The idiocy of what happened made it worse. He'd planned a day of boozing with various mates around the city (london) and had taken £100 just for taxi fares. Gets home completely bladdered at around 10.30pm, puts the lead on his dog, walks out the house and climbs into his car to drive to the local off license for another 6 pack.
The off license in question was maybe a 15min round trip on foot including the time it takes to pay.
He didn't actually drive again for nearly 4yrs, by which point he was, and still is, a non-drinker.
 
A couple of years ago I was very close to driving whilst seriously hammered. In the cold light of day it seems like madness but when under the influence you're not yourself; normal logic and reason go right out of the window. I'd got (fallen) into the car, started the engine and put it into gear before I was talked out of it.

Rather than not driving, I don't drink now instead. It's just better. Tomorrow evening I'm going to a barbecue and then probably to a club. When I'm done, I'll give everyone a lift home and drive to my hotel, park up, have a coffee, go to bed and wake up fresh as a daisy :).

Anyway, my point is, judge lest ye be judged? Something like that :p.
 
You obviously weren't hammered enough!!! ;).

When I go drinking I get to the point where getting on a Bus is enough of a challenge, let alone the logistics of getting to, into, starting and driving a motor vehicle :D.
 
I should've added that I did attempt to drink drive (technically ride since it was a motorbike) when I was 18. Just the once after an unplanned booze up. Luckily for me my balance is the first thing that goes so all I managed was to fall over twice without even getting close to starting the engine.
Left the bike at the pub and proceeded to take 2hrs to walk the, normally 20min journey at average walking speed, distance home. I'm in no doubt that I'd have done myself, and maybe someone else, a serious mischief if I'd been successful in my attempt to ride.


In the end all I did was throw some mud at a guy who didn't appreciate my taking a nap on his flowerbed :(
 
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[TW]Fox;17202254 said:
So now we have drink driving to add to your seemingly endless list of talents mike?

Lovely.

Never an excuse for it. It is just pathetic.

Here here.

But it does get more complicated when you look at it the next day after a big night out. Might be perfectly drive to fine late afternoon/evening but the breathaliser might very well say different.
 
its the norm here for people to drink and drive. i get some really WTF looks when i say i wont drive because ive had 1 can of beer. Father in law has finally accepted that if ive had any beer i wont drive anywhere.
 
its the norm here for people to drink and drive. i get some really WTF looks when i say i wont drive because ive had 1 can of beer. Father in law has finally accepted that if ive had any beer i wont drive anywhere.

Over there it's just a smack on the wrist though isn't it? Until they lock you up for life though that is :rolleyes:
 
Anybody ever been caught, had friends/family caught?

I'll risk the wrath of the forum...

About fourteen years ago, when I served in Germany, I had been drinking with my neighbour and foolishly drove us both into Monchengladbach from the base to carry on.

Long story short, I was pulled by the GCP, was slightly over the lower of their two levels (I'd had four pints or so by that point). As a consequence, I was given a one month ban. On top of that, the Army banned me from driving in Germany for a year.

Suffice to say, it was a very harsh lesson to learn as an exuberant young man. I learned from it, and have never repeated that silly, silly error of judgement. In fact, I rarely even drink any more at all.

Thankfully, no-one suffered other than me, which is really the best you can hope for in that situation.
 
My partner at the time's nephew was having a serious allergic reaction and needed to get to hospital as quickly as possible.

Thats what 999 is for. It's a great service, some trained paramedics turn up at your house and everything. Although obviously because you know everything you doubtless have a response prepared about how you know for a fact all the ambulance units were all parked the other side of the island dealing with a freak yachting accident or something, and that only your hero driving could save his life.
 
i thought the rule was 5 and drive ;)

Being serious though, the only key i take if im going out for a session is my house key, i wouldnt even consider driving, but why take up pocket space with keys you wont be needing.

her friend told her not to drive, tbh she could have done more, and took her keys away, hopefully the ban will be nice and long with a good size fine aswell.
 
[TW]Fox;17204980 said:
Thats what 999 is for. It's a great service, some trained paramedics turn up at your house and everything. Although obviously because you know everything you doubtless have a response prepared about how you know for a fact all the ambulance units were all parked the other side of the island dealing with a freak yachting accident or something, and that only your hero driving could save his life.

Hmmm in the time paramedics respond, and drive to your home, and arrive at your home to help let's say your mother, you could already be at the emergency room in the hospital if you drive yourself, while if you'd wait, at best she'd only be in an ambulance, rather than at the hospital.
 
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