Driving to work I had a Nihilistic moment.

i think you need to sort your life out. Both inner and outer. :)

But surely this is the whole point?

How can one sort out chaos ?

To actually "kid" oneself that anything can be sorted out is committing philosophical suicide.

The construct of the Inner and Outer means what exactly?
 
I found that taking up new hobbies got me out of a rut. Just about to spend a week throwing myself off of mountains with the intention of surviving ;)
 
The only thing keeping me from the brink is the fact that I'm a dad. That's a literal truth.
 
Then it's time you discovered the underlying force that keeps us all alive, the happiness behind the happiness etc until then you won't be satisfied I'm afraid. This applies to all beings that think they've done it all when really you ain't done **** :p
 
Heading towards 50 here and can confirm it's real. Where the hell did the last 25 years go?

I left 50 a few years ago now, tbh I'm slowly feeling the weight lifting of my shoulders.

At 50 you think damn where's my life gone, a few years on you think, ah well not going to achieve much more now, so chill.
 
Heading towards 50 here and can confirm it's real. Where the hell did the last 25 years go?

Exactly what I was thinking earlier, when a friend who emigrated 25 years ago sent me some pics of the old days when life seemed a hell of a lot more fun than it does now!
One of my big regrets is not leaving years ago like he did.
 
I left 50 a few years ago now, tbh I'm slowly feeling the weight lifting of my shoulders.

At 50 you think damn where's my life gone, a few years on you think, ah well not going to achieve much more now, so chill.

Unfortunately the day I feel I don't have enough time left to achieve anything is the day I will end it.
 
What a good thread!

We all have these moments unless we are incredibly lucky. Some of us have them once in a blue moon, for some of us they from part of our daily thought process, not least if you feel trapped in a going nowhere life. Life has shown me there is no one answer fits all as we are all different, with different aspirations and comfort levels. The interesting thing is I know people who are multiple millionaires and they too ask themselves "what am I doing this for" often, so don't see money as the solution to everything, it rarely is.

Life has also shown me however that for most people it's all under your control and the feeling trapped (work, home, family) is all under your control. Doesn't mean the decisions are not MASSIVELY hard sometimes, but it is under your control and if you are willing to accept that then todays drive was life affirming. It helps if you know what good and satisfaction to you looks like, which will also change as you age.

Write a list, write down what's crap, what's good and what you need to do. That will fix nothing but if you don't know what's crap and what's good you're going to struggle to get out of the negativity. Most people put money (lack of) on their list high up but I'd urge you not to. I have and continue to earn very well by most measures, but I am no longer chasing the dollar and I see it purely as a mechanism to clear the decks of debt so I am 100% debt free (which I am pretty much bar a mortgage, which is reducing nicely). Get to that point and your options are very different I feel if part of your goal in life is to remove need to service others. My focus is removing pressure from work life and building towards retirement as I close on 50 (next year). I also want to travel more, spend time seeing stuff, learning more about my passions and doing something with a group of like minded friends as my daily job.

I think if I get to that point then my life will be good as long as I maintain physical and mental health. Any curved balls along the way, there will be many, I will just deal with as best I can. One thing life has shown me sadly, is most people are not really that happy and I am somewhat envious of those who are but in the same way their happiness is rarely something i'd be happy with. Doesn't have to be that way, life is hard but you can change it, it's in all our powers to do so, just bloody hard.
 
What a good thread!

We all have these moments unless we are incredibly lucky. Some of us have them once in a blue moon, for some of us they from part of our daily thought process, not least if you feel trapped in a going nowhere life. Life has shown me there is no one answer fits all as we are all different, with different aspirations and comfort levels. The interesting thing is I know people who are multiple millionaires and they too ask themselves "what am I doing this for" often, so don't see money as the solution to everything, it rarely is.

Life has also shown me however that for most people it's all under your control and the feeling trapped (work, home, family) is all under your control. Doesn't mean the decisions are not MASSIVELY hard sometimes, but it is under your control and if you are willing to accept that then todays drive was life affirming. It helps if you know what good and satisfaction to you looks like, which will also change as you age.

Write a list, write down what's crap, what's good and what you need to do. That will fix nothing but if you don't know what's crap and what's good you're going to struggle to get out of the negativity. Most people put money (lack of) on their list high up but I'd urge you not to. I have and continue to earn very well by most measures, but I am no longer chasing the dollar and I see it purely as a mechanism to clear the decks of debt so I am 100% debt free (which I am pretty much bar a mortgage, which is reducing nicely). Get to that point and your options are very different I feel if part of your goal in life is to remove need to service others. My focus is removing pressure from work life and building towards retirement as I close on 50 (next year). I also want to travel more, spend time seeing stuff, learning more about my passions and doing something with a group of like minded friends as my daily job.

I think if I get to that point then my life will be good as long as I maintain physical and mental health. Any curved balls along the way, there will be many, I will just deal with as best I can. One thing life has shown me sadly, is most people are not really that happy and I am somewhat envious of those who are but in the same way their happiness is rarely something i'd be happy with. Doesn't have to be that way, life is hard but you can change it, it's in all our powers to do so, just bloody hard.

A very good post and I agree with most of it.
 
I had that feeling after work yesterday. I'm not sure how much longer I can take, didn't sleep very well last night. I'm going to try and do what housey suggested today as weekends become just sitting around like a lemon as a result.
 
I had that feeling after work yesterday. I'm not sure how much longer I can take, didn't sleep very well last night. I'm going to try and do what housey suggested today as weekends become just sitting around like a lemon as a result.

Just putting a list together is quite refreshing I find. It's a simple thing, but it starts to get your mind thinking positively about the things you want to change. Try and find some easy quick wins, such as painting a wall (crap example, but stuff you can start and finish) as that will also make you feel better. Also if you're like me you will waste far too much time trying to find the perfect app to help you and then never get the list done because all your time will be taken evaluating apps!

Pad, pen, done.
 
Unfortunately it did. But my direction was decided by someone young in their 20's with no real world experience. My 46 year old self would have chosen a much better direction :)

Live and learn well hopefully that advice will be helpful to someone else :)

I find life isn't just about yourself but others as well, being greedy and selfish doesn't do anyone any favours. Just a random point I thought I should bring up :)
 
What a good thread!

We all have these moments unless we are incredibly lucky. Some of us have them once in a blue moon, for some of us they from part of our daily thought process, not least if you feel trapped in a going nowhere life. Life has shown me there is no one answer fits all as we are all different, with different aspirations and comfort levels. The interesting thing is I know people who are multiple millionaires and they too ask themselves "what am I doing this for" often, so don't see money as the solution to everything, it rarely is.

Life has also shown me however that for most people it's all under your control and the feeling trapped (work, home, family) is all under your control. Doesn't mean the decisions are not MASSIVELY hard sometimes, but it is under your control and if you are willing to accept that then todays drive was life affirming. It helps if you know what good and satisfaction to you looks like, which will also change as you age.

Write a list, write down what's crap, what's good and what you need to do. That will fix nothing but if you don't know what's crap and what's good you're going to struggle to get out of the negativity. Most people put money (lack of) on their list high up but I'd urge you not to. I have and continue to earn very well by most measures, but I am no longer chasing the dollar and I see it purely as a mechanism to clear the decks of debt so I am 100% debt free (which I am pretty much bar a mortgage, which is reducing nicely). Get to that point and your options are very different I feel if part of your goal in life is to remove need to service others. My focus is removing pressure from work life and building towards retirement as I close on 50 (next year). I also want to travel more, spend time seeing stuff, learning more about my passions and doing something with a group of like minded friends as my daily job.

I think if I get to that point then my life will be good as long as I maintain physical and mental health. Any curved balls along the way, there will be many, I will just deal with as best I can. One thing life has shown me sadly, is most people are not really that happy and I am somewhat envious of those who are but in the same way their happiness is rarely something i'd be happy with. Doesn't have to be that way, life is hard but you can change it, it's in all our powers to do so, just bloody hard.

I don't think I'm unhappy though and I don't hate my job.

The whole point of Sisyphus was that he was conscious of his plight..

Camus states:

"The lucidity that was to constitute his torture at the same time crowns his victory. There is no fate that can not be surmounted by scorn."

What I'm trying to say is that no amount of changing things will result in anymore happiness once you have the sudden realisation its all pointless.

Its this rejection of meaning that in reality makes us free..And that is what scared me for a moment. The mere fact 99% of the time we distract ourselves with stuff (religion,things, money,power etc) enables us to function

But in reality we are not functioning at all. We are just existing with a deluded sense of meaning to our world. This meaning providing us with perceived essence.
 
I do have these thoughts.

I find that after being around friends and planning things with them, I then begin to think I can work to live. I find that pushes me forward. But I'm starting to find I'm after the little things in life. Quite refreshing to just kick back and blast a good album.
 
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